GTR 365 to storage

[Ianno87]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/harrisondethridge/39052350805/in/pool-networkers_and_desiros/
Here's the link

Well, it's undisputed if "Olly" says so...

 

[Class465fan]

Does anyone know what units (excluding 501, 505, 533 and 527) will be going into storage?

 

[bramling]

Does anyone know what units (excluding 501, 505, 533 and 527) will be going into storage?

All the odd numbered units is the current plan, and they're all now debranded. Many are still in service however.

 

[InTheEastMids]

That's what i was thinking. How can it operate between Cambridge and Birmingham if half of the lines (or shall i say most) Cross Country run on lacks Overhead wires?

Hook them up to redundant 67s and away you go

They can be the new 442s
(on account of the old 442s going back to doing more or less what they were designed for)

 

[Trainfan344]

With 100mph max they'd be great on the Great Eastern out of London, but we're getting those wonderful new trains...

 

[Class465fan]

Hook them up to redundant 67s and away you go

Or use the Rail Operations Group 57s/37s as they now have tightlock couplers.

 

[Failed Unit]

With 100mph max they'd be great on the Great Eastern out of London, but we're getting those wonderful new trains...

Sadly that is why they are leaving great northern. With substandard seating in their replacements and less of it, they will be missed.

 

[Class465fan]

Does anyone know when the next 365 move to storage is expecting to take place?

 

[Failed Unit]

Does anyone know when the next 365 move to storage is expecting to take place?

the next batch of services on GN will be downgraded on the 26th March, so I expect the 365s to leave early April.

 

[jamieP]

365503 & 519 due to go to Ely today.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O80470/2018/03/13/advanced

 

[Downthelane]

Why aren't the surplus 365's being retained for some of the current six car semi fast 313 services? E.g the 07.20 Letchworth to KGX? That train is usually full and standing by Hatfield. Seems odd to put units in storage when GN can't meet the demand for seats. Likewise in the new timetable/work of fiction, will the six car semi fasts via 313 be retained when there is far better stock in storage?

 

[jamieP]

Why aren't the surplus 365's being retained for some of the current six car semi fast 313 services? E.g the 07.20 Letchworth to KGX? That train is usually full and standing by Hatfield. Seems odd to put units in storage when GN can't meet the demand for seats. Likewise in the new timetable/work of fiction, will the six car semi fasts via 313 be retained when there is far better stock in storage?

Well the stock going of lease is no longer part of the GTR fleet. Also the 313s on the 0720 will at some point work to and from Moorgate as part of the units diagram for the day.

 

[Failed Unit]

Why aren't the surplus 365's being retained for some of the current six car semi fast 313 services? E.g the 07.20 Letchworth to KGX? That train is usually full and standing by Hatfield. Seems odd to put units in storage when GN can't meet the demand for seats. Likewise in the new timetable/work of fiction, will the six car semi fasts via 313 be retained when there is far better stock in storage?

Oh the 0720 demonstrates how fragile the timetable is and caused a few delay minutes.

However be careful what you wish for. From May the Welwyn- Kings Cross will be 700s only. Not 313s. Be interesting to see which passengers prefer comfortwise.

 

[adamedwards]

Given how insanely packed this train can be by New Southgate, I suspect an 8 car 700 will be very welcome. At least people will be able to get on.

 

[jon0844]

Yes, I think people not on the trains for more than 30-35 minutes are bound to be happier to get on a train than not, especially when finding a seat isn't likely today anyway.

 

[bramling]

Yes, I think people not on the trains for more than 30-35 minutes are bound to be happier to get on a train than not, especially when finding a seat isn't likely today anyway.

It was reasonably okay as 2x365, apart from the usual issue of more people wishing to be at the front of the train. However a couple of timetables ago it went to 2x313, which caused major problems. It was always 313s in the 1990s, but went to 8 cars perhaps when the 321s first arrived IIRC.

This is just the sort of service which *should* be benefiting from 700s - a length increase on an inner-suburban service. Unlike further out where there are few length increases, just a reduction in the number of seats and inferior comfort levels.

 

[jamieP]

365529 & 535 due to go to Ely for storage today.

 

[twpsaesneg]

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K96372/2018/03/15/advanced

Waiting outside Ely at the moment.

 

[jon0844]

Just found out that the 365s remaining with GTR will be getting Wi-Fi by the summer.

 

[hexagon789]

Just found out that the 365s remaining with GTR will be getting Wi-Fi by the summer.

How many are they keeping?

 

[Class465fan]

I believe 19 units are to remain with GN.

 

[APUK002]

Just found out that the 365s remaining with GTR will be getting Wi-Fi by the summer.

Ooo,kl making them almost like 700’s

 

[hexagon789]

I believe 19 units are to remain with GN.

Not a lot, less than half the fleet. Are they going to be dedicated to any specific routes/services?

 

[D365]

Not a lot, less than half the fleet. Are they going to be dedicated to any specific routes/services?

KGX-PBO peak fasts.

 

[hexagon789]

KGX-PBO peak fasts.

Good to know, that's certainly the sort of route they're suited to. Is King's Lynn all Electostars now then?

 

[philjo]

I think the peak services in the new timetable starting from Baldock/Royston to Kings Cross are also booked as 2x365s.

 

[hexagon789]

I think the peak services in the new timetable starting from Baldock/Royston to Kings Cross are also booked as 2x365s.

What luxury, 2 Class 365s!

 

[Hadders]

Ooo,kl making them almost like 700’s

Far superior to the 700s, from an internal point of view.

 

[hexagon789]

Far superior to the 700s, from an internal point of view.

From what I've heard/read, most people find most forms of traction superior to a 700

 

[ungreat]

The 700 is far better cab wise from a drivers point of view