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GWR Intercity Express Train (IEP) initial diagrams & allocations

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For Dec 2018 onwards, clearly 800E point to points should be quicker than existing HST 125 timings, but how will the 800D point to points compare? Are any of the 800D timings going to be improved over HSt125 timings? If so, between which points? And I mean net SRT's, not gross timings which include bags of recovery time. Is there any evidence to support lesser dwell times being allowed for too?

When the point to points have been compiled by SNC-L and validated by NR, we’ll find out!

p.s. SWTrainspottin, no probs on posting the planned diagrams elsewhere. Just credit the forum, not me.
 
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I’m sorry, I made a few mistakes - these are the correct 800 worked routes out of Paddington from the 12th February:

0519 Swansea

0547 Worcester Foregate Street

0620 Oxford


0630 Bristol Temple Meads

0645 Swansea

0652 Great Malvern

0721 Oxford


0815 Cardiff Central

0830 Bristol Temple Meads

0921 Worcester Foregate Street

1045 Swansea

1050 Oxford

1115 Cardiff Central

1122 Worcester Foregate Street


1200 Bristol Temple Meads

1215 Cardiff Central

1250 Oxford

1300 Bristol Temple Meads

1315 Cardiff Central


1345 Swansea

1400 Bristol Temple Meads

1421 Worcester Foregate Street

1521 Great Malvern


1622 Great Malvern

1630 Bristol Temple Meads
& Taunton

1645 Swansea

1652 Oxford

1730 Bristol Temple Meads
& Taunton

1745 Swansea

1800 Bristol Temple Meads

1830 Bristol Temple Meads
& Weston-super-Mare

1845 Swansea

1950 Oxford

2118 Oxford

Nice lot of services from early morning until mid evening. Not many later evening services yet.

Some of the above workings including all services through Oxford will be operational from mid January.
 
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For Dec 2018 onwards, clearly 800E point to points should be quicker than existing HST 125 timings, but how will the 800D point to points compare? Are any of the 800D timings going to be improved over HSt125 timings? If so, between which points? And I mean net SRT's, not gross timings which include bags of recovery time. Is there any evidence to support lesser dwell times being allowed for too?
See class 800 thread for reply.
 
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To sum up the January SX diagrams, here goes. The diagram numbers are not the actual ones. All the SX passenger workings listed underneath, by reporting number.

Firstly - the 180 replacement diagrams , 2 from 02/01/18 and 2 from 15/01/18. Meant to be first two, last two in date order but it could all change if no agreement with LTV drivers for the Oxfords is reached or the north Cotswolds station validation gets further delayed.

1) 1P80, 1W14, 1P25, 1D26, 1P32, 1W33, 1P47.
2) 1W12, 1P22, 1W23, 1P33, 1D34, 1P41, 1D38, 1P46.
3) 1K05, 1D15, 1P19, 1D22, 1P28, 1W29, 1P42.
4) 1D13, 1P16, 1W19, 1P29, 1W31, 1P45.

Secondly - the longer distance diagrams, all 5 car and everything is reset from 02/01/18. Start or end locations shown for the portion working.

5) 1A03, 1B12, 1L51, 1B40, 1L90, 1D41, 1P50.
6) 1A03, 1B12, 1L51, 1B40, 1L90.
7) 1C02, 1A10, 1B27, 1L65, 1C22 (TAU).
8) 1C02, 1A10, 1B27, 1L65, 1C22 (BRI).
9) 1A09 (TAU), 1B25, 1L71, 1C25, 1A33, 1B94.
10) 1A09 (BRI), 1B25, 1L71, 1C25, 1A33, 1B94.
11) 1C01, 1L48, 1C15, 1A23, 1B69.
12) 1C01, 1L48, 1C15, 1A23, 1B69.
13) 1L42 (CMN), 1B31, 1L68, 1C24 (BRI).
14) 1L42 (SWA), 1B31, 1L68, 1C24 (TAU), 1A37 (TAU).
15) 1L08, 1C06, 1A14, 1B37, 1L74, 1C26 (BRI).
16) 1L08, 1C06, 1A14, 1B37, 1L74, 1C26 (WSM), 2M70, 1A37 (BRI).

Then on 12th February the following should start;

17) 1L38, 1C13, 1A21, 1B59, 1L96.
18) 1L38, 1C13, 1A21, 1B59, 1L96.
19) 1B05, 1L52, 1C17, 1A25, 1B79.
20) 1B05, 1L52, 1C17, 1A25, 1B79.

Hope this is useful and apologies in advance for any typos.

Thanks very much for this, I have copied this into the frequently requested diagrams thread with credit given :)
 

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Thanks very much for this, I have copied this into the frequently requested diagrams thread with credit given :)

Please can you include the start and end times and stations though, I’m not very good with the four digit codes.
 

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Is the 1530 to Weston Super Mare normally operated by an 800?

I saw one working the service today at Paddington.
 

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This time next year almost all GWR IC will be 80x, apart from occasional Cornish services!
 

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Hi I’ve been looking for current services operated by class 800 at Newport times please.

For weekdays:

Towards Cardiff:
1B05 0832 to Swansea
1B09 0715 to Cardiff (that may be a guess though)
1B12 1005 to Cardiff
1B15 1031 to Swansea
1B28 1331 to Swansea
1B40 1531 to Swansea
1B42 1607 to Cardiff

Towards London:
1L46 1008 to London
1L51 1108 to London
1L52 1140 to London
1L62 1340 to London
1L76 1640 to London
1L82 1708 to London
1L90 1840 to London

I think anyway!
 

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For weekdays:

Towards Cardiff:
1B05 0832 to Swansea
1B09 0715 to Cardiff (that may be a guess though)
1B12 1005 to Cardiff
1B15 1031 to Swansea
1B28 1331 to Swansea
1B40 1531 to Swansea
1B42 1607 to Cardiff

Towards London:
1L46 1008 to London
1L51 1108 to London
1L52 1140 to London
1L62 1340 to London
1L76 1640 to London
1L82 1708 to London
1L90 1840 to London

I think anyway!

Thanks
 

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Are the diagrams still correct? Saw an 800 pair at Chippenham yesterday on the 1325 London service, I didn't think they worked down to Bristol during the day.
 

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Are the diagrams still correct? Saw an 800 pair at Chippenham yesterday on the 1325 London service, I didn't think they worked down to Bristol during the day.

Post #478 1300 Bristol TM to Paddington as from 11 December

Would it be possible for jimm to edit the first post by inserting the contents of Post #478, please, so the current diagrams are all in one place. Thanks
 
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Many thanks, I must have overlooked that one :)

Slightly late running 800010 & 800017 it be.
Interesting, I was just on 1C31 and that was 017 and 023. I'm guessing that as 1A11 was due back out on 1C20 which was canned due to a train fault, it was split up at NP and 017 put with 023 to salvage the rest of the diagram from 1C31 onwards. Which would also explain the lack of catering due to "last minute changes"
 

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Hi

I think GWR should use their kitchens on non Pullman services, offering a small range of hot dishes to compensate for the loss of buffet. Does anyone else agree?

:)
 

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Hi

I think GWR should use their kitchens on non Pullman services, offering a small range of hot dishes to compensate for the loss of buffet. Does anyone else agree?

:)
Yes, I agree; if they have kitchen, then they should able use of them.
 

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What has this got to do with diagrams for IETs? Please start another thread if you want to talk about catering.
 
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IET Diagrams - Saturday 23 December

5C05 0737 North Pole IET Depot - London Paddington
1C05 0800 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A12 1000 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1C14 1230 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A22 1500 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1C24 1730 London Paddington - Weston-super-Mare
1A33 2008 Weston-super-Mare - London Paddington
5A33 2232 London Paddington - North Pole IET Depot

5C06 0757 North Pole IET Depot - London Paddington
1C06 0830 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A14 1100 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1C15 1300 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A23 1530 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1C25 1800 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
5C25 1957 Bristol Temple Meads - Stoke Gifford

5C13 1135 North Pole IET Depot - London Paddington
1C13 1200 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A21 1430 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1B59 1645 London Paddington - Swansea
5B59 Swansea - Swansea Maliphant Depot

5C29 1912 North Pole IET Depot - London Paddington
1C29 2000 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
5C29 2219 Bristol Temple Meads - Stoke Gifford

5B03 0552 Stoke Gifford - Bristol Temple Meads
1B03 0645 Bristol Temple Meads - Swansea
1L48 0929 Swansea - London Paddington
1C16 1330 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A24 1600 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
5A24 1752 London Paddington - North Pole IET Depot

5A07 0610 Stoke Gifford - Bristol Temple Meads
1A07 0730 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1C09 1000 London Paddington - Bristol Temple Meads
1A17 1230 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
1B46 1445 London Paddington - Swansea
1L92 1829 Swansea - London Paddington
5L92 2145 London Paddington - North Pole IET Depot

5A09 0700 Stoke Gifford - Bristol Temple Meads
1A09 0830 Bristol Temple Meads - London Paddington
5A09 1027 London Paddington - North Pole IET Depot
 

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That's interesting... it gives four consecutive IET departures from Paddington to Bristol; 12.00, 12.30, 13.00 and 13.30.
 

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1C05 just passed here as an HST. 1C06 was an 800 though.
 
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1C05 just passed here as an HST. 1C06 was an 800 though.
Confirming that, oberservations at Bristol TM while waiting for a train to Exeter with some room; 1A22 HST. 1A23 800015/006, 1A24 800024/010 in that order.
 

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From October 16

07:00 Paddington to Bristol TM
09:30 Bristol TM to Paddington
11:45 Paddington to Swansea
15:24 (15:29) Swansea to Paddington
19:00 Paddington to Bristol TM

Am I right in thinking that this diagram returns to being operated by a HST, with the IET moved to work Oxford/Worcester services from 2nd Jan? I assume due to the 180s going off lease?
 

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Am I right in thinking that this diagram returns to being operated by a HST, with the IET moved to work Oxford/Worcester services from 2nd Jan? I assume due to the 180s going off lease?

There is a reset on the main line diagrams so the next stage of the cascade can comply with the TARA maintenance requirements in the IEP contract. Those workings should reappear as IET on 26/03/18 when 3 HST diagrams are due to convert on one day.

The 180 diagrams are all converted as a result of the delivery of newly “accepted” sets, planned to be 2 converted on 02/01/18 and 2 on 15/01/18, with Turbos subbing in the interim.
 
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