Harbon 1
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I can assure you it is worse. All the way from Glasgow to London
They're firm, but they're not catastrophic. All stock has its issues; the constant groaning of gangways on Mk3s, or the push up the backside and constant knocking from a worn buckeye on Mk4s, they're heavy bits of kit, its never going to be perfect.
Agin yes, it's exactly the same as being on a 385
Never experienced a 385 so can only assume its similar to the braking experience I've had on Hitachi stock, no noisier than any other unit I've been on.
Really is it? Are you denying what is plain to see?
Since all of my journeys on 800/801s have been in the daytime, and I specifically remember being able to see out of the window quite clearly on every single occasion, obviously that's not true. Did you have the blind down?
Appearances can be deceiving.
Well again the ones I've sat in I know are no worse than 222s.
This isn't a lip, this is an upwards curve on the bulkhead side of the table which means a good inch and a half is unusable for anything. This should have been on the inboard side and would have helped stop stuff flying off with the rubbish ride quality.
Oh that bit. Size isn't important, it's what you do with it.
They're all genuine! If your content with 385 quality IC stock then we both have very, very different ideas on what IC quality is. A 385 is tolerable for 42 mins, London to Inverness on a 385 masquerading as an IC train is not.
Again, not experienced a 385. Very specific time to be tolerable. My arse can go numb sooner than that on any train.
Agreed but still seem to have life elsewhere on the network? Can't be that knackered.
They may well be alright on the inside, but there is a lot of corrosion appearing around the doors. How long they'll actually last with other operators remains to be seen.