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Lumo (East Coast Trains) Class 803 Updates/Discussion
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DanNCL
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Services running under East Coast Trains's operating certificate at present (operator code LD) are Hull Trains units, the 803s have so far only appeared on GBRF operated test runs. A good indicator for an 803 would be if there are paths for it between Merchant Park and Darlington at the start and end of the day, as the 803s are still only running from the Hitachi site in Newton Aycliffe.
There are two paths tomorrow for test runs between Darlington and Edinburgh. These were also due to operate today but have been canceled so it remains to be seen if these will run tomorrow or not, I'll post an update once I know.
5Q61 12:47 Darlington - Edinburgh https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K06021/2021-06-04/detailed
5Q62 15:33 Edinburgh - Darlington https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K06022/2021-06-04/detailed
There won't be any 803s out this weekend, as 66751 which has been used to take them between Newton Aycliffe and Darlington returns to Tyne Dock light loco on Friday evening.
OK thanks. I saw a Bounds Green to Edinburgh run listed as LD so that's what I nipped out for.
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Thanks for the heads up on what to look for, nipped out to see 803002 today on Newcastle to KX, saw it was returning to Darlington later
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A pair of 803s 001 and 002 (according to Railcam) are out on test today coupled together
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03495/2021-07-15/detailed
Have they been testing in pairs for long or is this the first instance (haven't properly been on Railcam in a while and last time 803s were testing as single units)
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03495/2021-07-15/detailed
Have they been testing in pairs for long or is this the first instance (haven't properly been on Railcam in a while and last time 803s were testing as single units)
dan4291
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It's a fairly recent thing for them to be testing in pairs, don't know exactly when it started though.
Been in pairs for roughly 2 weeks during the day, but mostly single overnights
DanNCL
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803003 has been used on some of the most recent overnight test runs. Just 803004 and 803005 yet to make an appearance on the national network now.
004 made its first appearance in the factory yard this week so not long till that should venture out on test
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hexagon789
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I thought they were usually done in the middle of the night in specially set-up Signal Protected Zone?
And don't they only do them with 1 of the class before service entry, so possibly 800101 will of done that and no other units?
hexagon789
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Not sure about that, but if that is the case the whole process is a lot simpler than I thought and then yes, presumably that is it over and done with and it's simply crew familiarisation/training that's being done now
They are out again today, just passed through York on this working:
Realtime Trains - 5Q62 1016 Newcastle to London Kings Cross
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803002 currently without seats!
centro-323
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First pic with some (partial?) branding
YorksLad12
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Lummy! As it were. Glad to see they're not pushing the boat out on this.
lumo is their brand name. Tickets are on sale now at their website [lumo.co.uk].
Perhaps they were trying to be clever like the "ouigo" brand in France.
I won't say what I think but suffice to say I would have been happy with East Coast Trains.
Perhaps they were trying to be clever like the "ouigo" brand in France.
I won't say what I think but suffice to say I would have been happy with East Coast Trains.
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centro-323
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East Coast Trains would've been an awful name. Not only is it bland, but people (and Google) would confuse it for LNER. Lumo is at least something a bit different and memorable.
samuelmorris
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Agreed, ECT would have been very confusing. It would have needed some sort of identifier at the very least like 'East Coast Lite'. I'm not generally a fan of when franchised operators pick nonsense brand names but in this case I think it's actually the right move.
Yep. Lumo says "we're definitely not LNER".
Peter Mugridge
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If that's on the website, that's a bit of clever keyword spamming actually because Google will pick it up in searches for LNER...
No, I'm suggesting that the name Lumo is purely to clearly differentiate themselves from LNER.
ashkeba
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Both four letter names beginning with L running trains that look very similar except for paint. I think we all hoped for better but First's GWR is not luxurious and they even made a cramped dense Mark 3 interior so our hopes should not have been so high.
Bletchleyite
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To be fair some of us liked the Mk3 interiors, and the GWR spec 80x is actually DfT spec. Other TOCs pushed to modify it having seen how awful it was.
The trains will look overwhelmingly different to the travelling public - the reason we know they're similar trains is because we're train enthusiasts!
And in no way does Lumo look or sound anything like LNER...
ashkeba
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You must really like looking at high plastic seat backs if you liked GWR's horrid Mk3 interior because that's most of what you could see.
Do you realise some non enthusiasts say it "luner"?
TT-ONR-NRN
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It’s grammar plastic though
I genuinely didn’t until a child in my class was recounting their trip to London onboard a ‘luner’ train. I did the typical repeat back to toddler style, ‘You went on the LNER train? How exciting!’
“No, it was a different one. It was luner”.
Ok. Next child.
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