Northern 323s refurbishment and cascade

[prod_pep]

Glad it's coming back, but it would go and be slap bang in the middle of the working day. Ah well!

 

[LOL The Irony]

There's also a return working;
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O50617/2019-10-22/detailed

The northbound is pathed as a 323 but the southbound is pated as a Voyager

 

[323235]

The only paint any of 323223-323239 have seen since their initial GMPTE as delivered colours has been yellow warning ends, external window frames on all bodyside windows. Both First North Western's and Serco-abellio Northern's actual liveries were applied in vinyl wrap as opposed to paint. Edit to correct myself. One 323 323227 if I remember correctly did receive a painted relivery after Regional Railways GMPTE scheme and appeared in overall blue with the North Western Trains logo and gold stars.

I'm sure there were 2 x 323s in NWT gold star. 323233 was one of them.

 

[LOL The Irony]

I'm sure there were 2 x 323s in NWT gold star. 323233 was one of them.

Both are viewable in NWT livery on the previous page if you want to take a look.

 

[978wta]

There is a pic of 234 in the New livery on the Facebook group “Manchester’s Railways”

 

[323 Class]

Might be able to see the return on the Crewe cam around 10.10

 

[jonesy3001]

323234 is on the move

 

[323 Class]

323234 just passed crewe

 

[jonesy3001]

323226 on this run;

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O50617/2019-10-22/detailed

 

[js1000]

Edit.

 

[js1000]

Sorry, been trying to post a photo of it out and about in new livery that was posted on Linkedin but no joy.

 

[jonesy3001]

Sorry, been trying to post a photo of it out and about in new livery that was posted on Linkedin but no joy.

what is the group name called, still not worked out linkedin yet.

 

[js1000]

what is the group name called, still not worked out linkedin yet.

The photo was posted by a Fleet Refurbishment Manager at Northern. I'll try and post later if no one has uploaded. Having been used to Northern 323a practically unchanged in blue/purple livery over the past 20 years it looks a little odd in white livery to be honest!

 

[jonesy3001]

The photo was posted by a Fleet Refurbishment Manager at Northern. I'll try and post later if no one has uploaded. Having been used to Northern 323a practically unchanged in blue/purple livery over the past 20 years it looks a little odd in white livery to be honest!

i like it, went past the crewe cams and there is also a picture on the class 323 group on facebook.

 

[agbrs_Jack]

Any idea when the refurbished unit will be in passenger service?

 

[palmersears]

Just seen it trundling around Allerton, looks exceedingly smart. Livery really suits it in my opinion.

 

[Nymanic]

It's not much, but the Gemini website has an image.

Still curious to see the internal layout, although I'm sure there won't be any significant changes beyond moquette, panelling and PRM necessities.

 

[NoMorePacers]

Is it just a revinyling or a full repaint?

 

[LOL The Irony]

Is it just a revinyling or a full repaint?

I think it's a repaint.

 

[yrreb]

It's not much, but the Gemini website has an image.

Still curious to see the internal layout, although I'm sure there won't be any significant changes beyond moquette, panelling and PRM necessities.

I believe it's just all the seats getting re-covered + a PRM toilet, nothing else

 

[prod_pep]

It looks nice. My only grumbles are the yellow light surrounds and the fact it appears to have the rank-bad TrainFX PIS system fitred.

 

[OTRail]

It looks nice. My only grumbles are the yellow light surrounds and the fact it appears to have the rank-bad TrainFX PIS system fitred.

Was most probably for fleet standardisation to match the WMR units - makes sense since they will eventually end up at Northern when the Aventras arrive

 

[Chris125]

There's another photo on Flickr, looks good even if a little... cross-eyed?


323234 by Lucas31 Transport Photography, on Flickr

 

[XCTurbostar]

Photoshop-ed the lights back to black.. thoughts?

 

[LOL The Irony]

There's another photo on Flickr, looks good even if a little... cross-eyed?


323234 by Lucas31 Transport Photography, on Flickr

Photoshop-ed the lights back to black.. thoughts?
View attachment 69764

Much better. It looks gormless with the yellow light surrounds.

 

[_toommm_]

Photoshop-ed the lights back to black.. thoughts?
View attachment 69764

Much better! Same issue IMO with the 158 light cluster...

Bad:


Good:

 

[978wta]

It looks very good. If it had a facelift with newer style lighting clusters then it would have looked like a new train!

 

[yrreb]

Photoshop-ed the lights back to black.. thoughts?
View attachment 69764

I think it looks much better when they don't try to hide the light clusters in the livery itself but rather make them stand out with black. My only other gripe is that no attempt was made to install destination screens on the sides where is sufficient room for them

 

[py_megapixel]

I don't really care that much about the light clusters. What I do care about is the fact that the nasty TrainFX destination displays have the appearance of being Sellotaped to the windows. This is particularly bad when you consider that the Birmingham ones used to have a far easier to read system (bigger letters & less flickery).

 

[Chris125]

Can confirm it is all 26 from WMT after discussing with tony miles on WNXX forums and works for modern railways.

Update: seems RAIL were correct, Tony has confirmed that Northern are only receiving 17 of the 26 units at WMT.