Northern Unit Refurbishments

[507021]

158904 is the first 158/9 to go for refurbishment.

 

[geoffk]

Is there a summary of where we are with Scotrail units coming to Northern?

 

[158722]

158904 is the first 158/9 to go for refurbishment.

This being at LNWR Crewe, vice 158849?

 

[trainmananthon]

I believe 158849 and 333001 are almost ready to return, with just some interior work needing finishing off.

158904 I believe is being done to the same spec as 158845. The only difference will be it won’t have reservations.

I’m glad work has started on the /9s. I find them awful units and the work is much needed on them!

 

[507021]

This being at LNWR Crewe, vice 158849?

Yes, it's at Crewe.

 

[anamyd]

Is there a list in here somewhere of which units have been refurbished...?

 

[59CosG95]

Is there a list in here somewhere of which units have been refurbished...?

Our own @507021 has a blog as to what units have been refurbished; it can be found at https://merseyrailpep507.blogspot.com/.

 

[anamyd]

Our own @507021 has a blog as to what units have been refurbished; it can be found at https://merseyrailpep507.blogspot.com/.

Thank you

 

[northernchris]

158904 I believe is being done to the same spec as 158845. The only difference will be it won’t have reservations.

Are the 158/9 fleet to work different diagrams then once all refurbs are complete?

 

[jonesy3001]

next refurb?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03792/2018/12/13/advanced

 

[trainmananthon]

Are the 158/9 fleet to work different diagrams then once all refurbs are complete?

No, as far as I’m aware the Perkins units (815-859) and two unknown Cummins units will get everything including reservations and will be transferring upto the North East to work up there. The rest of the Cummins units (including the /9s) will continue to run their normal diagrams out of Leeds

 

[jamieintercity]

158789/867/869 have now left scotland and are currently on their way down south. They left Haymarket at 1105

 

[palmersears]

158789/867/869 have now left scotland and are currently on their way down south. They left Haymarket at 1105

Going to Heaton I assume?

Is the plan to press them in to service imminently or are they going for refurb first?

 

[superkev]

Going to Heaton I assume?

Is the plan to press them in to service imminently or are they going for refurb first?

Rtt shows Heaton as was the last transfer of 170s which I believe moved later to NL.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O65726/2018/12/12/
Organising drivers must be difficult for these moves. Can Northern drivers work down to from Heaton to NL without a TP or FHH etc pilot?
K

 

[superkev]

And - any offers on this 158 move Heaton NH.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O65777/2018/12/12/advanced
I thought all 158s where based at NL. Perhaps there run out of siding space.
K

 

[simon7929]

Only Newcastle drivers sign Heaton. They bring units off the shed to Central Station or sometimes Darlington depending on staff availability. A York man then takes them South. However with 170s I know that no drivers at Newcastle sign them.

 

[simon7929]

So now the only Scottish units expected to head South are the two remaining 170s and the five 156s?

 

[507021]

No, as far as I’m aware the Perkins units (815-859) and two unknown Cummins units will get everything including reservations and will be transferring upto the North East to work up there. The rest of the Cummins units (including the /9s) will continue to run their normal diagrams out of Leeds

158815-158862 are the 158s with Perkins engines.

 

[507021]

So now the only Scottish units expected to head South are the two remaining 170s and the five 156s?

Yes, the 156s are arriving this week from what I've heard.

 

[simon7929]

158815-158862 are the 158s with Perkins engines.

Northern ones are.. 158815-7, 842-5, 848-51, 53/5/9-61.

 

[thealexweb]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/...cwYVfw2XTLvxcRu9JOQEx-G8nETEpIoIO9SNyoGfk67dg

How bad will this be for Northern refurbishment work?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

No, as far as I’m aware the Perkins units (815-859) and two unknown Cummins units will get everything including reservations and will be transferring upto the North East to work up there. The rest of the Cummins units (including the /9s) will continue to run their normal diagrams out of Leeds

Back when the /9s were ordered, WYPTE had originally wanted to order a further 10 155s but Leyland had shut the production line. If they'd got their wish, I assume they'd be Hull-bound.

 

[507021]

A post on Facebook says 156447/465/485 are due to transfer to Heaton tomorrow.

 

[trainmananthon]

158815-158862 are the 158s with Perkins engines.

I was mainly referencing the northern examples, but completely forgot that 860/861 also exist. That’s what happens when you’re tired!...

 

[Liverpool 507]

150133 has been sent to Doncaster Wabtec for PRM Mods.

 

[507021]

156447/465/485 are en-route to Heaton, currently at Lockerbie.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91728/2018/12/13/advanced

 

[superkev]

And - any offers on this 158 move Heaton NH.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O65777/2018/12/12/advanced
I thought all 158s where based at NL. Perhaps there run out of siding space.
K

RTT was cancelled.
K

 

[507021]

156447/465/485 are en-route to Heaton, currently at Lockerbie.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91728/2018/12/13/advanced

Now at Heaton.

 

[superkev]

I was surprised to see that Newton Heath is listed has having 10 unrefurbished class 158s when I thought all Northern 158s where allocated to NL.
Anyone know what routes these 90mph units are allocated too.
Thanks
K

 

[ben2012]

I don't now if this is in the right place but can I ask why 322485 went down south