Nottingham Station 6 week Blockade

[ashworth]

We were reminded again this morning on local radio that trains will stop running from Nottingham railway station for 6 weeks from 20th July during a major revamp of track and signals.

The plans seem to be that passengers will be bused to/from East Midlands Parkway for London services and also the Norwich to Liverpool service will be diverted to stop at East Midlands Parkway.
It seems that a few services from Leicester and Derby will start/terminate at Beeston on the outskirts of Nottingham and that services from Leeds will probably start/terminate at Alfreton all with bus connections.
Services from the east will run into Nottingham during part of the blockade but on some days will start/terminate at Newark or Grantham.

No decisions seem yet to have been made as to what is going to happen to the Mansfield/Worksop services. Has anyone any inside information about what may be happen to Mansfield/Worksop services.
For example are there likely to be any trains or bus connections from Hucknall (north of Nottingham) for passengers travelling northwards to Mansfield or even further afield via Worksop?
The reason I ask is, although it's over 6 months away I already know that I will have to make a return journey to Lancashire on 2 days during the Nottingham blockade to/from Hucknall where I would normally change at Worksop, Sheffield and Leeds, splitting my ticket at Sheffield.
If there is no way of getting north from Hucknall and I have to go on buses via Nottingham and Alfreton will the normally cheaper, via Worksop ticket, still be available as it will not be my fault that there are no trains by that route?

 

[CallySleeper]

Possession planner says that buses will operate to Hucknall throughout (although don't take this as red until EMT tell you!) with limited access to Eastcroft through most of the blockade. This implies then that trains will operate from Hucknall north.

I assume that 'via Worksop' will still be available, but again don't take it from the horse's mouth... Best probably to wait for confirmation from EMT for exact service levels etc.

 

[Mugby]

If all or most services are to be covered by buses, Derby, Lincoln, Grantham, Hucknall, Chesterfield, EMP, that's a heck of a lot of buses!

Given that they normally operate from Station Street, I would imagine this will be totally inadequate and another departure point will be required.

 

[CallySleeper]

Buses un-confirmed running to EMP, Derby, Alfreton, Hucknall, and Newark Castle and/or Grantham when required. Eagerly awaiting full confirmation from the TOCs. Mugby - they may potentially try and use the Broadmarsh as a possible alternative/suggestion.

 

[ATW Alex 101]

Will there be no trains stopping at Alfreton or Langley mill?

 

[bunnahabhain]

We were reminded again this morning on local radio that trains will stop running from Nottingham railway station for 6 weeks from 20th July during a major revamp of track and signals.

The plans seem to be that passengers will be bused to/from East Midlands Parkway for London services and also the Norwich to Liverpool service will be diverted to stop at East Midlands Parkway.
It seems that a few services from Leicester and Derby will start/terminate at Beeston on the outskirts of Nottingham and that services from Leeds will probably start/terminate at Alfreton all with bus connections.
Services from the east will run into Nottingham during part of the blockade but on some days will start/terminate at Newark or Grantham.

No decisions seem yet to have been made as to what is going to happen to the Mansfield/Worksop services. Has anyone any inside information about what may be happen to Mansfield/Worksop services.
For example are there likely to be any trains or bus connections from Hucknall (north of Nottingham) for passengers travelling northwards to Mansfield or even further afield via Worksop?
The reason I ask is, although it's over 6 months away I already know that I will have to make a return journey to Lancashire on 2 days during the Nottingham blockade to/from Hucknall where I would normally change at Worksop, Sheffield and Leeds, splitting my ticket at Sheffield.
If there is no way of getting north from Hucknall and I have to go on buses via Nottingham and Alfreton will the normally cheaper, via Worksop ticket, still be available as it will not be my fault that there are no trains by that route?

Liverpool - Norwich will run via Melton Mowbray and call additionally at East Midlands Parkway.
Leeds - Nottingham will terminate at Alfreton.
London - Nottingham services will terminate at East Midlands Parkway for the first week/weekend, and from then a limited number will continue to Beeston where they will terminate.
The Robin Hood Line will terminate at Hucknall, passengers will transfer to Tram services from there into Nottingham.

I'm afraid I can't remember anything else of the information poster I saw.

 

[Mugby]

Should provide some interesting crossover movements in the area!

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Should provide some interesting crossover movements in the area!

I know Somehow I get the impression that I'll be in the East Midlands quite a lot over summer...

Out of interest, when was the last time such a huge blockage was carried out consecutively for so long?

 

[tom1649]

Leeds - Nottingham will terminate at Alfreton.

No turnback facility at Langley Mill then?

 

[Tomnick]

I'm not sure, perhaps unfortunately, how many 'unusual' crossover movements there'll be. There aren't any turnback moves at East Midlands Parkway, Beeston and Alfreton, so (barring the possibility of SLW to point of obstruction at Beeston), I'd imagine it'd be an ECS shunt via somewhere in most cases. Still a few opportunities for unusual routes though, particularly around Toton.

 

[ashworth]

The Robin Hood Line will terminate at Hucknall, passengers will transfer to Tram services from there into Nottingham.

Thanks for that information. That's great. At least I will still be able to travel to/from Hucknall to Sheffield via Worksop. I had fears that it could have ended up being a very lengthy journey via Nottingham with buses. I'd rather put up with the 45 minute wait for a connection at Worksop where at least you can get a very good breakfast at the cafe on the station!

 

[dvboy]

Buses to Newark Castle... so I suppose the trains that do both Newark North Gate and Castle will still do that (like they did in November) Why not just terminate them at North Gate and run the buses from there?
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I know Somehow I get the impression that I'll be in the East Midlands quite a lot over summer...

Out of interest, when was the last time such a huge blockage was carried out consecutively for so long?

Lincoln?

 

[CallySleeper]

There was at some time a crossover to the north of Langley Mill, but I don't know if it's still there/useable. I understand that there will be 'temporary' signalling at Beeston.

 

[Tomnick]

I don't think there's anything at Langley Mill any more (certainly the old ground frame that used to he used to turn back diverted London - Notts trains has gone), but there are turnback facilities at Ironville Jn (I think that's what it's called now) and Trowell Jn. I don't know what the arrangements at Beeston are, but the only way to turn back from the west currently will be to run forward onto the Down Goods and come back from there.

 

[dvboy]

EMT have a website here: www.eastmidlandstrains.co.uk/timeta...gham/Major-Signalling-Works-planned-for-2013/

 

[RichmondCommu]

Perhaps the decision to not use Langley Mill is down to the lack of a suitable turning circle at the station? From memory the main road running past the station is also prone to congestion before you add in a fleet of replacement buses!

 

[Mugby]

The EMT website states that the work will enable three signal boxes to be closed.

Could these be Snienton, Rectory and Netherfield?

 

[RichmondCommu]

The EMT website states that the work will enable three signal boxes to be closed.

Could these be Snienton, Rectory and Netherfield?

I'd assumed that one of the three would have been Trent?

 

[Lewisham2221]

Doesn't really offer anything more than we've already established, but details from the EMT website: http://www.eastmidlandstrains.co.uk...gham/Major-Signalling-Works-planned-for-2013/

 

[Starmill]

Liverpool - Norwich will run via Melton Mowbray and call additionally at East Midlands Parkway.
Leeds - Nottingham will terminate at Alfreton.
London - Nottingham services will terminate at East Midlands Parkway for the first week/weekend, and from then a limited number will continue to Beeston where they will terminate.
The Robin Hood Line will terminate at Hucknall, passengers will transfer to Tram services from there into Nottingham.

I'm afraid I can't remember anything else of the information poster I saw.

Fancy that! Hearing "East Midlands Parkway" being announced at the likes of Lime St and Piccadilly!

 

[transportphoto]

Fancy that! Hearing "East Midlands Parkway" being announced at the likes of Lime St and Piccadilly!

And Norwich!! For once, some of the EMT only advance tickets between the two stations can be used without a change!

 

[Tomnick]

The EMT website states that the work will enable three signal boxes to be closed.

Could these be Snienton, Rectory and Netherfield?

They're all closing, along with (as above) Trent PSB. Either they've not counted Sneinton (it's not a block post) or they just can't count!

 

[Qwerty133]

They're all closing, along with (as above) Trent PSB. Either they've not counted Sneinton (it's not a block post) or they just can't count!

Well the marketing staff don't seem very clever so properly the latter (there's a banner at Leicester advertising services to loughborough one of the 'uk's leading university city's'

 

[Starmill]

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Lan...hq=Langley+Mill+station&radius=15000&t=k&z=18

You can barely see poor little Langley Mill on the satellite images! Does Liverpool - Norwich really stop here?

Also, welcome to Nottinghamshire, home to the UK's most pathetic sliproad. Guess that's what happens when you grade-separate a single carridgeway road!

 

[MidnightFlyer]

IIRC only a couple of trains a day now call at Langley Mill on the Liverpool-Norwich runs, the December 2008-introduced Leeds-Nottingham services now call hourly (before that I believe all LIV-NRW trains served Langley Mill). Both services still serve Alfreton.

 

[RichmondCommu]

Well the marketing staff don't seem very clever so properly the latter (there's a banner at Leicester advertising services to loughborough one of the 'uk's leading university city's'

Ok so it's not a city but it's pretty good for sport!

 

[Lewisham2221]

Ok so it's not a city but it's pretty good for sport!

Supposedly good for transport related degrees too, or so I've been told.

 

[MCW]

I'm keeping an eye on this, could see some interesting workings passing through Leicester.

 

[ashworth]

No mention on the EMT website about trains from Worksop running to/from Hucknall although that would be the most sensible especially if train tickets were accepted on the tram between Hucknall and Nottingham for those 6 weeks.

 

[12CSVT]

Fancy that! Hearing "East Midlands Parkway" being announced at the likes of Lime St and Piccadilly!

"The next train to arrive on platform 13 will be the 13:42 East Midlands Trains service to East Midlands Parkway............"