26 actually... .
Now there's been an failure on my part to add up the numbers properly
There are indeed 26!
26 actually... .
Had to do the maths on that one :P
It's not actually a majority; by my reckoning (i.e. taking the numbers off Wikipedia) SWT has 172 out of 354 Desiros, or 48.5%.
When the 350/3s and 350/4s are delivered it'll be 172 out of 374, or 46%.
Reference: there are 51×185, 67×350, 26×360, 38×380, 45×444 and 127×450.
If you do a DfT and count the number of vehicles instead of the number of trains that would make it a majority, with the 185s only being 3 car and the 444s being 5 car.
I'll raise you a 56 propelling two EPBs in passenger service.
Photo has been posted twice before on the forum, but I can post it up again if you can't find it on a search...
5H00 into Marylebone is booked 172 + 165 + 168 + 172.
Ah yes. I was waiting for this one to pop-up. According to the logs, the 378 driver misjudged the braking distance and there was an accidental impact of about 1.6mph if I remember correctly. Enough to cause a mechanical coupling.
The MOM pointed out that the shoegear was down on the 378 and the pan was up on the 350 causing people to expect smoke...
Agreed. I think it's the combination of corridor connection and non corridor connection stock that makes it a bit weird. I think that about the 153/143 combos we have here in Devon.
Eventually they swapped all their Turbistars for 158s (Ex-FTPE ones, IIRC)
It was a direct swap with TPE, more or less.
The Salisbury line services can throw up pretty much any length of train between 3 and 10 cars made of 158s and 159s; I've seen services that are in weird orders like 158+159+158 or 159+158+159.
SWT got the better deal Better quality units
It was a direct swap with TPE, more or less.
The Salisbury line services can throw up pretty much any length of train between 3 and 10 cars made of 158s and 159s; I've seen services that are in weird orders like 158+159+158 or 159+158+159.
SWT got the better deal Better quality units
I'm not sure I'd class any of the mixed Sprinter formations as particularly odd. Part of the point of the 15x sets is that they should all be inter-operable. Seeing a 150 and a 156 or a 156 and 158 together, or with a dogbox on the back should be reasonably common, I'd have thought.
It wasn't just a couple of months ago when there was a regular 150+153 diagram on the Snow Hill lines. The ATW 158 operated services sometimes operate as 158+150 as well.In Birmingham it's very rare
It wasn't just a couple of months ago when there was a regular 150+153 diagram on the Snow Hill lines. The ATW 158 operated services sometimes operate as 158+150 as well.
Overall I agree with AndyLandy, various multiple Sprinter formations aren't all that unusual.
c2c, TPE and LO.
LO's fleet is the youngest at just over a year and a half old on average.
Agreed. I think it's the combination of corridor connection and non corridor connection stock that makes it a bit weird. I think that about the 153/143 combos we have here in Devon.
I'ts certainly true that the majority of LMs' 150s have gone elsewhere, but you still don't have to go particularly far from Birmingham to encounter "mixed Sprinter" formations.The 150s on the Snow Hill lines have scattered. There's only 2 sprinters that run in Birmingham. They both run on the Bromsgrove line, which pretty much never couples. So yeah, I'm Birmingham they're rare, I've never seen a 158+150 formation in Birmingham
I'ts certainly true that the majority of LMs' 150s have gone elsewhere, but you still don't have to go particularly far from Birmingham to encounter "mixed Sprinter" formations.