What is the SouthEastern dispute about? Also Pay/Ts&Cs? Can’t find anything onlineMarked and already popped in post with a yes to both!
What is the SouthEastern dispute about? Also Pay/Ts&Cs? Can’t find anything onlineMarked and already popped in post with a yes to both!
Ha I think you have the wrong person there. I also like how you didn’t disagree.Disgruntled bus driver jealous of railway staff after being knocked back for a train driver job himself.
I'll take whatever you say with a pinch of salt.
The working class really do love to turn on each other.
Ha I think you have the wrong person there. I also like how you didn’t disagree.
We are one of the lowest paid driving grades in the country yet we are living in the second most expensive part of the UK, many of us drive 377’s for Southern which are paid a lot more, yet alone sharing messrooms with various drivers who are paid more than us when we have one of the busiest networks on the country. Also no pay rise since 2019, and with the shambles of the franchise extension we were promised we’d be brought up to a matching salary.What is the SouthEastern dispute about? Also Pay/Ts&Cs? Can’t find anything online
Again, those that accused the RMT of causing chaos for people and then saying haha it hasn't. These people can't make their minds up what they want to attack those striking for a better industry for. There's a job for you in this u turning useless government - who will u turn yet... We're just getting startedWell I’m not seeing this predicted chaos and apocalypse that was predicted. Yes, roads are a little busier. But I thought we’d have nationwide gridlock. Nope. All a bit of a damp squib really. Just shows that the railways aren’t as important as they may think. We had more chaos during the fuel shortages late last year….
Even London isn’t the usual carnage that it is when then tubes are striking. What a way to hasten your own demise.
I've seen silly comments from yourself in the past so thought I'd check your profile to make sure it was the same person, so no I definitely didn't get the wrong person.Ha I think you have the wrong person there. I also like how you didn’t disagree.
He doesn't have the wrong person, Dan. I also saw your previous posts before you just changed the settings on your profile.
Couldn’t agree moreAgain, those that accused the RMT of causing chaos for people and then saying haha it hasn't. These people can't make their minds up what they want to attack those striking for a better industry for. There's a job for you in this u turning useless government - who will u turn yet... We're just getting started
He doesn't have the wrong person, Dan. I also saw your previous posts before you just changed the settings on your profile.
Just out of interest. When you say hasten the demise… are you thinking along the lines of frequency/capacity cuts or whole line closures?Well I’m not seeing this predicted chaos and apocalypse that was predicted. Yes, roads are a little busier. But I thought we’d have nationwide gridlock. Nope. All a bit of a damp squib really. Just shows that the railways aren’t as important as they may think. We had more chaos during the fuel shortages late last year….
Even London isn’t the usual carnage that it is when then tubes are striking. What a way to hasten your own demise.
That would be illegal unless no more than 6 people were on strike for each workplace affected.One rule that should change regarding strikes in any sector is that staying at home shouldn't be permitted. If you're on strike, you should be compelled to attend a picket line for the duration of your shift.
Just read The Secret Barristers book again and after deductions the take home is something ridiculous like £15,000 a year for a criminal barrister who works ludicrous hours as is. They deserve better.According to the Bar Council, the average pay of barristers working on publicly funded criminal work has fallen in cash terms from £61k to £47k. That doesn’t allow for inflation, so that 23% reduction is worse in real terms.
so a 15% increase seems reasonable In that case.
And as a couple going through IVF and the birth of our first child soon we absolutely respect the amazing work the NHS does and will never tolerate people criticising you and your colleaguesPlease don't use my industry as ammunition for your quite obvious anti-Union diatribes.
The fact many of my colleagues in the NHS are too gutless to stand up for their professions and demand reasonable pay rises is why my profession (nursing) has seen its pay effectively cut by a fifth since 2010. I'm sure the fact we currently have approximately 40k vacancies for Registered Nurses (with all the impacts such shortages have on patient care) is no coincidence...
As multiple people have said on here, it's not a race to the bottom. From the financial illiteracy that was 'austerity', the idiocy of Brexit, through to the mismanagement of public funds that has led to Tory donors being given preferential contracts during Covid and £11Bn being written-off by the Treasury, this government has done all it can to attack the less well-off and feather the nests of the rich. Industrial Action was always going to be the result of such politically-driven assaults on the population.
Solidarity with all those on strike today.
I totally agree
You say that but if you look at the financial mess the railway is in, workers for companies in a similar situation in other industries would be very worried about whether they would still have a job in a few months. They wouldn't be saying how much more are you going to pay me?
Well said. There are differences obviously and I have winced at some of the postings, especially the political ones, as well as some awful attitudes to others. But we are all in this earth for a limited time so, disagree with others by all means but do so in a respectable manner.I’ve said rather a lot on this thread, so I’m going to just say one final thing.
This topic has been exceptionally dividing, and several posts have caused issue with other members, including my own. This is a controversial topic, and while I stand by my anti-strike stance, I recognise the extremely complex nature of railway jobs and the hard, hard work put into them by staff everyday, and have so much respect for them despite not being a supporter of strikes.
Therefore, if any of my posts have upset anyone due to me being against strike action, then I just want to apologise for that. I do have a anti-strike stance and I won’t be changing that despite some of you challenging it, but first and foremost we are all humans with individual opinions and I do not wish for anyone to be upset by my posts. For me, respect for others comes before getting my point across and that is why I just wish to add that I may not approve of strike action but I accept the right for workers to strike and the hard work of those choosing to.
And even though I loathe strikes with all my heart, if the railway industry do come out of it with a rise, I will be raising a glass with you. I cannot deny one is well deserved.
Safety should be a given.
Volumes are the railway's business.
Is there a chance this could be resolved this week and the remaining days be called off?
Again, those that accused the RMT of causing chaos for people and then saying haha it hasn't. These people can't make their minds up what they want to attack those striking for a better industry for. There's a job for you in this u turning useless government - who will u turn yet... We're just getting started
Oh you where lucky. We had to go in for a few hours in the messroom with those booked on nearest the few trains running at departure time having to work them.This DOO driver set his alarm for 5 this morning, phoned in to book on and went back to sleep.
I think they probably have with several asking passengers not to travel at all. I expect it’s the fear of too many turning up for last trains this afternoon & not being able to accommodate everybody. Makes sense to not put themselves in that position.On the train back from Cardiff to Paddington and it's completely dead. I was worried that it might be quite busy with the big reduction in frequencies/services, but it looks like people aren't travelling at all instead. I wonder if the TOCs have slightly scared people off travelling on lines that are running?
Is this the same as the RMT-TOC disputes, or is it different (ie is what's on the table the same or different)?Ballot papers just hit arriva rail London Overground driver doormats.
As long as it doesn’t increase inflation, say 2-3%, then I agree.Just read The Secret Barristers book again and after deductions the take home is something ridiculous like £15,000 a year for a criminal barrister who works ludicrous hours as is. They deserve better.
I believe pay only. But I could be wrong.Is this the same as the RMT-TOC disputes, or is it different (ie is what's on the table the same or different)?
We seem to have three different disputes going on at the same time, with pay being only one component.
I don’t think that’s anything to boast about really.This DOO driver set his alarm for 5 this morning, phoned in to book on and went back to sleep.
So what does a DOO driver do when told to book on but there are no signallers to change those fancy lights? Get sent home?
From the financial illiteracy that was 'austerity', the idiocy of Brexit, through to the mismanagement of public funds that has led to Tory donors being given preferential contracts during Covid and £11Bn being written-off by the Treasury, this government has done all it can to attack the less well-off and feather the nests of the rich. Industrial Action was always going to be the result of such politically-driven assaults on the population.
Solidarity with all those on strike today.
indeed, and Lots of people work very hard to make it so. Should bonuses still be paid if there is a major safety lapse?
indeed they are, although I don’t think that paying big bonuses for shifts lots of passnegrs and freight that was consistently late would be well received.
I’ll also remind you of that when we come back to opening new lines in rural areas!
2% + 1% 6 months later might be a reasonable offer in a normal year.So 2%+1% does sound a little stingy compared to where the private sector settlements are right now (+ where public sector likely to be) but the rest really doesn't sound that unreasonable to be honest - you would still have a very good set of T&Cs compared to the wider economy.
They're self employed. They need legal aid funding to be increased by a substantial amount more. But this is going off topic.As long as it doesn’t increase inflation, say 2-3%, then I agree.
Paying bonuses for safety seems like paying a bonus for doing the job properly, which they ought to be anyway.