RMT announce strike dates across range of TOCs and Network Rail

[Jan Mayen]

I'm surprised they haven't done mid-day to mid-day, causing even more disruption.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Surprised they haven't gone for 1200-1159 strikes to cause more disruption for less loss of pay.

I think going every other day as they have will cause things to be heavily disrupted on the days in between due to stock being out of place etc, so I think they have actually been quite clever.

 

[GB]

Don't expect any traffic outside of 0700-1900.

Will be interesting to see what runs since traffic that makes up day turn services have to run outside those hours.

 

[Ibex]

Texts sent out to WMT members now too..

 

[The Planner]

Will be interesting to see what runs since traffic that makes up day turn services have to run outside those hours.

All down to how you can man boxes and how many trains will be acceptable as "safe" to run.

 

[uww11x]

Don't expect any traffic outside of 0700-1900.

indeed. Revised freight plans on them dates already underway. Expect a lot of activity when opportunity to run appears!

 

[zoneking]

Will any services be running?

 

[XCTurbostar]

indeed. Revised freight plans on them dates already underway. Expect a lot of activity when opportunity to run appears!

Maybe even Sunday?

 

[Goldfish62]

Three days of strikes targeting three of the busiest days of the week and causing severe disruption on the days in between. From the point of view of causing maximum disruption while minimising loss in pay it appears logical.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Three days of strikes targeting three of the busiest days of the week and causing severe disruption on the days in between. From the point of view of causing maximum disruption while minimising loss in pay it appears logical.

One assumes that all Sunday volunteering will also be withdrawn.

 

[Horizon22]

Well that's ridiculous for a bl**dy start! Surely the most basic level of common sense would suggest TOCs and NR out on different days...

In what sense? To maximise impact and media coverage, perhaps doing it nationwide might be more effective. Although different TOCs doing different days might make a more widespread impact, it might not be as concentrated.

 

[Starmill]

Don't expect any traffic outside of 0700-1900.

Yes but major routes are likely to be open during the daytime. Talk of food shortages or a complete block on freight is very unlikely.

Obviously some freight services will not run, be rescheduled, or run on a different day. A handful may be transferred to lorries.

 

[The Planner]

Yes but major routes are likely to be open during the daytime. Talk of food shortages or a complete block on freight is very unlikely.

Don't disagree, freight will trump all passenger paths during strikes.

 

[Mintona]

can’t help but think this is going to end badly for the RMT.

 

[GB]

Maybe even Sunday?

Doubtful, terminals tend to be closed on sundays and there is a lot less staff available to crew/shunt the trains.

 

[AntoniC]

Will this make the Tories bring in legislation to deem ALL railway workers essential workers and remove the right to strike ? (such as for Police/Prison Officers)

 

[JonathanH]

One assumes that all Sunday volunteering will also be withdrawn.

It is a mixed issue - on the one hand, the companies don't want staff to be able to make up lost earnings by being able to use rest day working, prolonging the strike. On the other, they probably want a service to run to bring in revenue.

 

[Bletchleyite]

It is a mixed issue - on the one hand, the companies don't want staff to be able to make up lost earnings by being able to use rest day working, prolonging the strike. On the other, they probably want a service to run to bring in revenue.

I meant more that the staff wouldn't volunteer, but maybe they would to make up lost money.

 

[eldomtom2]

Will this make the Tories bring in legislation to deem ALL railway workers essential workers and remove the right to strike ? (such as for Police/Prison Officers)

I would think other jobs would be more likely to be hit with a strike ban than railway workers.

 

[nedchester]

can’t help but think this is going to end badly for the RMT.

Agree.

A flagging PM looking for a something to raise his popularity……this could be just the ticket……

 

[Jan Mayen]

I was under the impression that they only needed to give one weeks notice, not two. Have the rules changed?

 

[A Challenge]

I would think other jobs would be more likely to be hit with a strike ban than railway workers.

I'm interested in where else you think would be going to get a ban, given the government don't seem to care about students and UCU strikes are the only other set of strikes that I've seen in the news recently? The government aren't going to ban strikes somewhere there hasn't been any recently.

 

[Goldfish62]

I was under the impression that they only needed to give one weeks notice, not two. Have the rules changed?

It's 14 days notice. Not changed.

 

[142blue]

I was under the impression that they only needed to give one weeks notice, not two. Have the rules changed?

7th June today. 14 days notice 21st June

 

[Undiscovered]

I was under the impression that they only needed to give one weeks notice, not two. Have the rules changed?

Gives a chance to call them off.
Obviously, you have to get around a table first to meet and agree a timeframe for discussions, then adjourn and postpone the strikes.

 

[Goldfish62]

One assumes that all Sunday volunteering will also be withdrawn.

That'll only impact those TOCs which rely on voluntary Sunday working though.

 

[Howardh]

I'm surprised they haven't done mid-day to mid-day, causing even more disruption.

No doubt there will be early morning and late night cancellations either side of those dates, example I wouldn't now expect the 2317 Blackpool North > Manchester to run as it would encroach on a strike day, and there will be plenty of late evening trains covering some distance (so starting mid-evening) that end after midnight cancelled too, or cut short?

 

[scrapy]

Agree.

A flagging PM looking for a something to raise his popularity……this could be just the ticket……

Whilst most people on here either work on, use, or have an interest in the railway, a rail strike is irrelevant to the majority of the population, especially outside London. Food/power shortages as a result of the strike would be relevant but are unlikely and contingencies do exist.

What would not be good for the PM is if other public sector workers that have been hit by pay freezes and below inflation such as teachers, nurses, fire fighters and council workers think now is the the time to take action as well.

 

[Goldfish62]

It is a mixed issue - on the one hand, the companies don't want staff to be able to make up lost earnings by being able to use rest day working, prolonging the strike. On the other, they probably want a service to run to bring in revenue.

The TOCs don't rely on revenue. It all goes to the Treasury.

 

[Signal_Box]

Same dates announced for Network Rail.

No email or text for me at the moment, fantastic to get strike dates from social media than mg actual official union channels

Then they want me to strike !