Routes between stations in tunnel.

[sprinterguy]

Deleted-Noticed it had already been mentioned!

 

[The Barlow Boy]

Okay, I might have you on the Liverpool Street to Stratford but I am right with KGX - Finsbury Park because it is a three minute journey and you spend one minute and thirty five seconds either under canopies/in tunnels.

Should know, I filmed the route!:roll:

It's not the time, it's the distance.

 

[LE Greys]

Partick>Exhibition Centre (but not the other way). I think that's about 50% in tunnel.
Deleted, already mentioned

And perhaps the ultimate
Cheriton-Coquelles
(Or Ashford International-Calais-Fréthun if you don't count them as stations)

 

[MidnightFlyer]

To clear up Finsbury Park-Kings Cross:
Distance:
2.41 miles (201 chains)

Tunnels:
Gasworks Tunnels: 528 yds / 22 = 24 chains
Copenhagen Tunnels: 594 yds / 22 = 27 chains

24 + 27 = 51 chains

So that equals:
160 chains in open air
51 chains in tunnels

 

[4SRKT]

Have we had Dore to Grindleford yet?

 

[yorksrob]

St Leonards Warrior Square-Hastings is about 90% in one tunnel;
Hastings-Ore is about the same ;
Rochester-Chatham about 95% in one tunnel;
Chatham-Gillingham is about 80% in a tunnel

Don't forget St Leonards Warrior Square - West St Leonards. Unfortunately Dover Priory - Western Docks no longer exists but I'll mention it since the tunnel bit's still in use!

 

[atomicdanny]

Don't forget St Leonards Warrior Square - West St Leonards. Unfortunately Dover Priory - Western Docks no longer exists but I'll mention it since the tunnel bit's still in use!

Technically speaking though the station and platforms are still there, just the tracks have been removed and the platforms have been filled in for a car park (I think Southeastern missed an opportunity there though - an hour to London to the port in dover! and connections to the north as well via Kings Cross / St Pancras!)

As for the tunnel part I think its about 50% tunnel and 50% out, but then again it does have a slow speed limit around that corner (15mph i think?)

 

[IanPooleTrains]

To clear up Finsbury Park-Kings Cross:
Distance:
2.41 miles (201 chains)

Tunnels:
Gasworks Tunnels: 528 yds / 22 = 24 chains
Copenhagen Tunnels: 594 yds / 22 = 27 chains

24 + 27 = 51 chains

So that equals:
160 chains in open air
51 chains in tunnels

Okay, for those of us that use metric and started this debate and have absolutely zero idea of what the hell you are talking about, what has a chain got to do with distance?

 

[ainsworth74]

Distances on the railway are measured in chains and miles. 1 Chain is 22 yards and there are 80 chains in a mile. If you want it in metric 1 chain is just over 20 metres.

 

[IanPooleTrains]

Distances on the railway are measured in chains and miles. 1 Chain is 22 yards and there are 80 chains in a mile. If you want it in metric 1 chain is just over 20 metres.

I prefer miles, yards and metres, whoever invented chains needs shooting!

(Please note that I don't mean that)

 

[yorksrob]

Technically speaking though the station and platforms are still there, just the tracks have been removed and the platforms have been filled in for a car park (I think Southeastern missed an opportunity there though - an hour to London to the port in dover! and connections to the north as well via Kings Cross / St Pancras!)

As for the tunnel part I think its about 50% tunnel and 50% out, but then again it does have a slow speed limit around that corner (15mph i think?)

Yes, I thought this as well. It probably made sense to turn Marine over to something else with the loss of so many boat trains - but I'd have thought a spur to a more basic single platform station serving the docks from the Priory direction would have allowed the railway to more effectively serve the cruise ships and whatever else may be using Western Docks at the mo.

They could have kept things ticking over throughout the day by extending terminating Victoria - Priory services there - as happened previously.

 

[Drimnagh Road]

One for 4SRKT,

City Hospital-Botanic on NIR.

 

[4SRKT]

One for 4SRKT,

City Hospital-Botanic on NIR.

True. And this is a recent development. It was a cutting when I were a lad!

 

[ainsworth74]

I prefer miles, yards and metres, whoever invented chains needs shooting!

So do I! I think the only place that chains are actually used regularly still is on the railways. In fact the reason I joined this board was to ask about some measurements I had seen on a local line marked in chains as I thought that no-one used them, turned out I was wrong and the railway still did much to my surprise!

 

[MidnightFlyer]

So do I! I think the only place that chains are actually used regularly still is on the railways. In fact the reason I joined this board was to ask about some measurements I had seen on a local line marked in chains as I thought that no-one used them, turned out I was wrong and the railway still did much to my surprise!

Metric (m, km etc) is used on, from what I can gather, the LUL and any modern light rail network in the UK (the Tyne & Wear Metro, Manchester Metrolink, Croydon Tramlink, Nottingham Express Transit, and Sheffield Supertram), and, if I'm not wrong, one of the preserved (steam) railways in Wales (it may be the Welsh Highland Railway), as well as the CTRL (and HS2) too.

All operational Network Rail-owned track in the UK (and privately owned I think) is still in imperial (chains, yards, miles etc), and has continued to be so on all recent line openings (the East London Line, Ebbw Vale and Alloa (although they already had measurements in imperial, they were not changed)).

Irish railways follow the same as British railways IIRC, with LUAS being metric, and heavy rail being imperial

I cannot see the railways changing from the old mileages unless the EU etc dictate that we must use metric, but boy would it be costly.

 

[90019]

Distances on the railway are measured in chains and miles. 1 Chain is 22 yards and there are 80 chains in a mile. If you want it in metric 1 chain is just over 20 metres.

The distance between the stumps on a cricket pitch is also 1 chain.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Most electrification masts put up in recent years have Km based numbers don't they ( whereas the older ones on the southern part of the WCML show mile based mast numbers )?

So in that sense we already do have Km based measurements of a sort.

Anyway... tunnels and routes... has anyone mentioned ( rest of line edited - it's in the OP...!!! )

 

[ainsworth74]

The distance between the stumps on a cricket pitch is also 1 chain.

Good knowledge! Have you self a drink of your choice on the house

 

[12CSVT]

I prefer miles, yards and metres, whoever invented chains needs shooting!

(Please note that I don't mean that)

One chain (22 yards) is approximately the same length as many items of rolling stock, so is actually a practical measurement on the railways.

 

[142094]

Metric (m, km etc) is used on, from what I can gather, the LUL and any modern light rail network in the UK (the Tyne & Wear Metro, Manchester Metrolink, Croydon Tramlink, Nottingham Express Transit, and Sheffield Supertram), and, if I'm not wrong, one of the preserved (steam) railways in Wales (it may be the Welsh Highland Railway), as well as the CTRL (and HS2) too.

The TW Metro uses both, with everything on the normal system using metric and then reverting to miles and chains on the Network Rail section.

 

[philjo]

Bayford to Cuffley (Hertford Loop ) ??
Distance between stations is 3.5 miles.
Ponsborne Tunnel is 1m 924yds
So not quite half in the tunnel.


Weeton to Horsforth - again not quite half in the tunnel