There is a dedicated team who clean the 385s on the move, between Qst and Croy and at Edinburgh , but the can't do everything especially when you see what filth a weekend evening yields. I take it you've never travelled on commuter services in large European cities? I've yet to see a Scotrail train with floor to ceiling graffiti on the inside (and out), women begging at every door with tiny babies, drug paraphernalia scattered around. Overcrowding to the extent staff are employed to push you into the train. I spent 3 years travelling into Paris and Madrid, and these are the realities. This notion that everyone else is better is quite frankly utter nonsense. Its also quite amazing to see the detail the nightshift heavy cleaning squads manage to achieve, trains look like new after a heavy clean. Sadly it only lasts a few hours. Until we have a cultural shift from "someone else will get it" it's a lost battle. Perhaps we should be putting up signs like IKEA and McDonald's declaring it a "self clear" area. It seems to work.
