SWR Repaints and Refurbishments

[387star]

See here

 

[387star]

Yes, booked empty to Guildford. I saw it at Cosham and had to double check.

Haha good spot

I know they go this way just forget the times
Forgotton how much the vomiters stink too

 

[387star]

Wonder why trolleys profitable on Waterloo and not southern services to vic

More affluent route ?

Chichester etc is very expensive though !

 

[Goldfish62]

Yes, booked empty to Guildford. I saw it at Cosham and had to double check.

Just seen it at Wokingham.

 

[swt_passenger]

See here

[canopy supports]
This sub-forum you’re in is normally about rolling stock...

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Partly refurbished 450s:

003, 006, 007, 011, 014, 026, 027, 028, 030, 031, 035, 036, 040, 074, 076, 086, 087, 093, 099, 102, 105, 109, 110, 124, 126(25 units)

Full refurbishment of trains:

444s:
003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 010, 013, 015, 019, 020, 025, 029, 033, 034, 038, 040, 042, 044 & 045.(19 units completed)(42% complete)

450s:
005, 008, 010, 013, 015, 016, 018, 019, 020, 024, 025, 032, 033, 037, 038, 041, 073, 075, 079, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 085, 091, 094, 095, 097, 100, 103, 106, 111, 112, 113, 115, 117, 119, 121, 122 and 125(41 units completed)(32% complete)

*currently being done

Let me know if any more trains have been fully refurbished and I will edit this post regularly

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

See here

Yeah that canopy support does look a lot better as grey and blue rather than all-grey

 

[WVL14]

Partly refurbished 450s:

003, 006, 007, 010, 011, 013, 014, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 030, 031, 035, 036, 040, 073, 074, 076, 086, 087, 093, 099, 102, 105, 109, 110, 117, 124, 126(31 units)

Full refurbishment of trains:

444s:
003, 006, 007, 010, 015, 019, 020, 025, 029, 033, 034, 038, 040, 042, 044 & 045.(16 units completed)(36% complete)

450s:
005, 008, 015, 016, 018, 019, 020, 032, 033, 037, 038, 041, 075, 079, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 085, 091, 094, 095, 097, 100, 103, 106, 111, 112, 113, 115, 119, 121, 122(34 units completed)(27% complete)

*currently being done

Let me know if any more trains have been fully refurbished and I will edit this post regularly

444s - add 444013, 444005 and 444008
450s - add 450010, 450024, 450025, 450073, 450117 and 450125.

Undergoing work at Eastleigh at moment are 444005, 444008, 450010, 450073 and 450117
.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

444s - add 444013, 444005 and 444008
450s - add 450010, 450024, 450025, 450073, 450117 and 450125.

Undergoing work at Eastleigh at moment are 444005, 444008, 450010, 450073 and 450117
.

Thanks for the update on the refurbishment. You said that 444005, 444008, 450010, 450073 and 450117 are undergoing work, but you also said that they are done. Is that a mistake?

 

[Dan15812]

Being done : 444005, 444008, 450010, 450073 and 450117
Put an asterisk * by them.


Completed: 444013, 450024, 450025 and 450125

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Ok done

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Do most Desiros now have the upgraded Wi-Fi and infotainment?

 

[Dan15812]

That's how I interpreted it!

 

[WVL14]

Thanks for the update on the refurbishment. You said that 444005, 444008, 450010, 450073 and 450117 are undergoing work, but you also said that they are done. Is that a mistake?

I did include the ones at Eastleigh in the done list.

On site at Eastleigh are:
444008 arr 3-5-19 (unit 18)
444005 arr 13-5-19 (unit 19)

450010 arr 4-5-19 (unit 39)
450117 since 7-5-19 (unit 40)
450073 since 9-5-19 (unit 41).

Next one, 450013 (unit 42) due in tonight and 450010 due out.
.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

159017 has gone up to Loughborough for refurbishment earlier today, and 159016 went up there a month back, so I think 159016 will return soon.

 

[387star]

When are 158s getting new first class seats

 

[Bigfoot]

When are 158s getting new first class seats

Diesel fleet is due internal works starting next year.

 

[bosleyrog]

Do we know if there are plans to re-brand the rest of the SWR fleet? (Cl455,456,458,707, wiki list)

 

[swt_passenger]

Do we know if there are plans to re-brand the rest of the SWR fleet? (Cl455,456,458,707, wiki list)

They aren’t expected to be reliveried, because they will all be replaced by Class 701 Aventras...

 

[WVL14]

450117 and 444008 were released from Eastleigh today.
No units have taken their place yet.
.

 

[molecrochip]

450117 and 444008 were released from Eastleigh today.
No units have taken their place yet.
.

Was led to believe that there will now be a drop in the number of units on hand at Eastleigh to facilitate May 2019 timetable introduction.

 

[43096]

Was led to believe that there will now be a drop in the number of units on hand at Eastleigh to facilitate May 2019 timetable introduction.

Presumably to help alleviate the 442 fiasco. Of course it wouldn’t be an issue had SWR delivered the Desiro refurbishment on time.

 

[WVL14]

Was led to believe that there will now be a drop in the number of units on hand at Eastleigh to facilitate May 2019 timetable introduction.

Correct. In future there will be 1 x 444 and 2 x 450s at Eastleigh at any one time.

 

[Goldfish62]

Correct. In future there will be 1 x 444 and 2 x 450s at Eastleigh at any one time.

I previously reckoned completion of the refurbishment towards the end of the year. I now reckon it will go into next year. Will we even see any repaints this year?

 

[Goldfish62]

Presumably to help alleviate the 442 fiasco. Of course it wouldn’t be an issue had SWR delivered the Desiro refurbishment on time.

Quite. As recently as December SWR were saying the programme would be complete by May yet it's not even halfway through. How can they get it so wrong?

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

I previously reckoned completion of the refurbishment towards the end of the year. I now reckon it will go into next year. Will we even see any repaints this year?

I think the 'slowing down' of the Desiro refurbishment is only until the 442 door issue is fixed, then the refurb rate will go back to how it was previously, but what I don't understand is why Siemens never refurbished 1 Desiro per day since December.

 

[43096]

It actually is, 48% of the Desiro fleet are done, it's almost halfway through

Which is not halfway!

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Which is not halfway!

I understand that, but 48% is extremely close to 50%, and by the end of this month, over half of the Desiro fleet will be refurbished

 

[43096]

I understand that, but 48% is extremely close to 50%, and by the end of this month, over half of the Desiro fleet will be refurbished

Fully refurbished, or are you including the partially completed 450s as well? Because the numbers above for Monday are nothing like 48% complete.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Fully refurbished, or are you including the partially completed 450s as well? Because the numbers above for Monday are nothing like 48% complete.

The 27 partly refurbished 450s as well... You know what, just forget the statement I said about almost half of the Desiro fleet being refurbished