I've just noticed these little beasties in for TPE at the end of the month, I wonder if they could have something to do with it, with stops possibly to check platforms?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/N11554/2018/01/30/advanced
I think with that you'd kill much of the market for rail travel to the airport, the average person who's travelling once or twice a year really wouldn't want to change at all if possible, they've likely already got enough problems on their mine when going away. I know people going from Dewsbury don't want to change at Huddersfield to get an airport service, and that's normally same platform, they'd rather get a taxi to Huddersfield.
Class 185 test trains. They have run before. Used to test new on board equipment that is tied in to the GPS and new track beacons.
.Monday to Friday only
After the timetable change... so no Dewsbury calls I presume?
I know it is for so many, many reasons, but 4 carriages is a bit of a shame - would be great if they were full length "proper" trains as "capacity boosters" for the core.
That said, 4 Mk3s still (I imagine!) take more than a 185...
I know it is for so many, many reasons, but 4 carriages is a bit of a shame - would be great if they were full length "proper" trains as "capacity boosters" for the core.
That said, 4 Mk3s still (I imagine!) take more than a 185...
Just to update:
The Mark 3 coaches should enter passenger service in late May, running Monday to Friday only between Scarborough and Liverpool.
On the off chance that you see them on that route before then, they will be crew training runs and NOT for passengers.
Trains will be top and tailed with 4 coaches on each train.
If that is true I hope someone has told Tony Miles who was happily being quite aggressive with people on facebook accusing them of 'wibble' when one person suggested that they were using them as there is no other diesel stock available.
Just to update:
The Mark 3 coaches should enter passenger service in late May, running Monday to Friday only between Scarborough and Liverpool.
On the off chance that you see them on that route before then, they will be crew training runs and NOT for passengers.
Trains will be top and tailed with 4 coaches on each train.
Once the two Mark 3 set are out and about where will they be stabled overnight.
Are the Scarborough services gonna stop at St Helens or is it the Newcastles as I hope the 68s will I cant wait to hear them thrash past my house
18 or 24 first class and approx. 216 standard class seats on a mark 3 rake (Assuming that the RFMs provide the first class accommodation, and I assume that one rake will have to use a declassified first class vehicle as standard accommodation?), versus 15 first and 154 standard (plus 12 tip-up) on a class 185.That said, 4 Mk3s still (I imagine!) take more than a 185...
Are the Scarborough services gonna stop at St Helens or is it the Newcastles as I hope the 68s will I cant wait to hear them thrash past my house
At the moment the Scarboroughs are pencilled in to stop at Lea Green after the timetable change.
Mk3s to keep the VTWC livery?I’ve seen both of the proposed class 68 diagrams that commence in May so I can assure everyone that they are going to happen.
What is the thinking in TPE using Newton and Lea Green? Are they areas of expanding populations or business?Crewe
TPE won’t stop at SHJ.
It’s either Lea Green or Newton LW from May depending on the destination of the train.
TPE calls at Newton and originally St Helens Junction where to replace the calls by the northern semi-fast Liverpool <=> Manchester Airport.What is the thinking in TPE using Newton and Lea Green? Are they areas of expanding populations or business?
Mk3s to keep the VTWC livery?
What is the thinking in TPE using Newton and Lea Green? Are they areas of expanding populations or business?
Having looked at it on flickr, it does look like a very colourful rake, especially with the snow!
68019 5Z08 Preston by British Rail 1980s and 1990s, on Flickr