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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ungreat, 1 Jan 2020.
Team sports, definitely. Solo sports like athletics, gymnastics, etc. not so much.
Ah, but you could ask a long-term enthusiast of the UK railway scene (OK the interest is lower these days but still...) that same question and not get a correct answer. I certainly couldn't tell you for sure, and I've been around on the scene to various extents since October 2003. Altrincham is one of them, of that I am certain, but are we only looking at where the trams run from Manchester city centre, or are we including the other end of the routes too?
Two of my friends are Manchester United followers, who occasionally get to go to Old Trafford. They both have differing anxiety issues, so would rather not go on their own, and to go together is challenging due to their both working different days/nights/hours and have drastically different commitments. However I suspect neither of them could tell you which tram to get for a trip to Old Trafford, certainly not without getting a map. Yet they are keen followers, so it's a little unfair to say any supporter should know!
This thread came to mind this morning, as I was sat in front of two girls talking about shopping amongst other things. One bit of the conversation I heard bits of, while reading a book, was discussing places to go and I could feel the passion and enthusiasm they had for it. I've no idea how someone can love shopping, but like many of us on this forum will never understand football it's always interesting to observe other people's passions.
It's awkward for them. Not for me.
I used to go to the games a lot; I even had a season ticket, but school work and other things caught up with me. I think for now, I will only purchase tickets for singular matches.
A problem I have is that I'll probably have no-one to come to games with me, as none of my friends/family support the team I support (or even support football). Football watching is no fun if you have no-one to share it with.
So if they buy the shirt and watch the team on Sky and have an online subscription, then this is fine, but:
I've no interest myself but have nothing against those who do (although I'm specifically referring to the type who can be heard earnestly discussing the technicalities of the game, rather than the boorish, lagered-up oafs which the sport so readily attracts).
Now here's something. We all have different voices - so much so that when two people have similar vocal characteristics, its an unusual enough occurrence for the lesser-known person to be branded a 'soundalike'. So why do groups of chanting footie boys, at large railway stations all over the country on Saturday evenings, always sound exactly the same?
Some notable exceptions to that idea. Wherever Simona Halep plays you can guarantee the presence of vociferous Romanians complete with Romanian flags and some wearing replica shirts of their national football(!) team. And US inter-collegiate sports are highly tribal with gymnastics very much a part of that.
If you think that then I suspect you are not paying close enough attention!
Oh, of course there are exceptions. The US collegiate sports scene is a notable exception, but there's nothing normal about US collegiate sports.
The point is that just about any sport is capable of provoking a tribal response from spectators. See Malaysians watching badminton or Chinese watching table-tennis. The question is how to prevent that tribalism from taking an aggressive turn. In this country Rugby League is pretty good in that respect though modern stadium rules tend to segregate fans of the two teams thus undermining what always used to be a very friendly banter-laden mixing of fans.
As to the more general question of why people do or don't like football it does seem to be quite closely related to childhood experience ie those who genuinely enjoyed playing when younger, to whatever standard, are far more likely to be fans as adults while those who were sufficiently poor at it as to be unable to derive any pleasure from it grow up to be disinterested at best.
As a spectator sport, football is by far and away the most popular, hence it's label of national sport.
My father was a hearty fan of assorted sports, including football (he had many other interests too): it would seem that he regretted my showing early, very definite signs of being a cerebral, totally non-athletic type and inveterate "indoor plant". He died when I was 10 -- in his last couple of years of life, he took me on several occasions to home matches of our city's football side, hoping against hope that I might thereby in some sort, get the bug. Sorry, Dad, you were completely on a hiding to nothing there: I tried to endure it uncomplainingly (or so I like to remember), but opined privately that watching paint dry would be considerably more interesting and exciting.
I have two brothers, significantly younger than me: they have no memories at all of our father -- however, one is a fairly tepid; and the other, a white-hot fanatical; football fan. Funny how things work out. (Neither brother is into railways.)
thanks for this useful list of people with questionable character
In the way it's impossible to escape it between the huge amount of coverage it get on TV, news, any form of media never mind when there's a bit football event on at which point nothing else exists in the world apart from football. Rugby occasionally comes close but far less often whereas football is just non-stop and inescapable pretty much the entire time.
I almost always go to matches on my own. Absolutely love it, mainly because I don't feel a need for restraint then
Well all I'll say as a football fan is that it is very easy to escape it. The vast majority of TV channels do not cover it, many news channels have timed slots for sports news, and failing that there is an entire world out there not associated with football. Honestly, it isn't hard to find.
I hardly ever watch TV these days, but when I do it does seem difficult to escape it, especially if you're watching the news. If you don't like football then simply don't watch a channel that's showing it. In the days of on demand TV it's not exactly hard.
I'm finding that my interest is waning, an amazing thing to say when I subscribe to Sky Sports and have a season ticket.
I won't be giving up the season ticket but I am finding myself less and less likely to watch live games on TV.
I don't miss not having access to the Champions League, I just don't bother with it, except for dipping into the final, now that it has to be shown for free somewhere.
I'm disillusioned with the cheating, diving and general sh*t attitude of modern day players, that and transfer fees and wages are far far far too high
Can't stand them, I don't care what anyone says about them, and you were right, he's an odious individual.
If you're wanting to play, have a look at your local Gumtree listings, teams often advertise for players there, that's how I got myself back into playing once I relocated to Scotland, and although too old an unfit to play on their team, I did really enjoy the training sessions and small games on a Tuesday night during the season and pre-season training was always brutal.
Now that injury has stopped me playing properly, I am enjoying playing walking football immensely.
Me. My club is 100% owned by the fans. I am a member of the DFC Supporters Group. I pay a yearly sum for membership plus a bit more in lottery and fundraising initiatives. Darlington FC Supporters Group holds 78.5% of the equity of Darlington Football Club and is therefore the major shareholder as well as being the Corporate Director of Darlington Football Club 1883 Ltd.
I am also part of the other 21.5% as i own a couple of my own shares in the club.
Yep, me too.
Can't understand why people get so passionate about 22 thick millionaires kicking a ball around, spitting and shouting insults.
I recall the one time I actually put some effort into a footage during PE. I attempted to tackle the top school team player. Instead of using his skill to avoid losing the ball, he just hoofed it straight into my face.
After that I just went back to escaping through the hole in the fence and mucking about in the woods with a couple of mates.
As this is a rail forum, I would not take this as an accurate guide regarding the popularity of football.
That’s everything I hate football for as well.
I watched the Merseyside derby on Sunday on TV, and must say I much preferred going to Ormiston v Preston Athletic in the East of Scotland League on Saturday. It was a much more entertaining derby game. I just find live football on TV is so dull for me.
I wish mine was, although I am a member.
I do own two shares in a club that I've never watched though, that is Real Oviedo in Spain.
Must admit I'm looking forward to Daisy Hill v Bury next season. Clapped out ground, half the lights not working, pint in hand....who needs the EFL and Premiergreed??
That's absolutely the biggest problem I have with it. The cretinous mob mentality is just not something I've ever felt a need to be part of.
My dad tried very hard to get me into sport of any kind, but failed dismally. He badgered me into playing golf with him once, but made the fatal error of choosing a golf course next to a railway line!
Back to footie - it just doesn't engage me at all. Loads of games end with 0-0 draws, and that just strikes me as the dullest thing in the world. If you could guarantee fifty goals per game, I might show an interest, but it just seems slow and dull and pointless to me.
When I was a kid, it absolutely dominated the media schedules all weekend, and if you didn't like it, you were a bit screwed.
"What football team do you support?" is still the first thing I'm asked by a surprising number of people, as if it's just a given that I'm passionate about it, because of what's between my legs.
I'm still frequently stared at like I have two heads when I tell people I couldn't give a toss about it.
That would drift toward the territory of basketball, where teams can expect to score roughly 100 points each (2 or 3 points at a time) yet be within a few points of each other at the end. If the teams are going to be within one score of each other at the end (as they spend much of the game trading scores), I sometimes wonder "why bother with the first three quarters: just leap straight into the final quarter?"
Well, about the only sport I can stand watching is tennis, because although matches can be pretty long, they're very fast-moving, and even if a player wins a couple of sets comfortably at the beginning, they can still go on to lose, and it's much more engaging for that.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?