WMTrains livery and station branding

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  1. sd0733

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    Just seen 350370, unable to get a pic but it now has branding for Cadbury world in the same place as 377s branding.
     
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    it is a bit off-topic but I'm not sure, it presumably depends what control standard is normally used - the drivers for those LCD displays may have an input controller that can read the spec of the text used by scrolling dot matrix displays and its default mode turns it into yellow text on a blue background as seen. Or it could be proprietary, and terrible!
     
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    350372 also now route branded with visit Liverpool branding.
    Not the best pic but.... 20190227_191106.jpg
     
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    PerryBarrSignage 270219.jpg Perry Barr station has gained new signage today. Will upload a picture later. Not the best Pic. Taken from 350105 which has a mix of threadbare seats and some newly replaced blue ones

    HTH

    Mark
     
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    Some renders of the c350 refurbishment:

    350_refurb_interior_2.jpg 350_refurb_interior_1.jpg 350_refurb_interior_3.jpg
     
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    To say that the 350/1 I was on this morning had threadbare seats shows just how much they need a refurb.
     
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    Pity the 323 refurb didn’t include replacing the dingy yellow interior lighting. A real let down. Detracts from what is otherwise a decent unit refurb. Still time to reconsider that issue with subsequent unit refurbs.
     
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    Colour scheme looks nice. But they really do need to either make 1st 2+1 or get rid of it. It's an utter sham.

    I hope the lighting isn't that bright white.
     
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    If you want to replace it with nasty overbright dentist's chair lighting, you can keep it. I want home-like comfort, not an interrogation room. Who has daylight white lighting in their lounge?
     
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    Nothing wrong with 2+2 throughout especially where First Class is concerned after all Class 365s had it from day 1 so what makes the Class 350s so special?
     
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    Like many UK train refurbs at the moment it resembles something you'd see in a Regus serviced office.
     
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    Just seen the new Cheddington signs. They look alright but only because the existing signs they vinylled over happened to be long and thin, allowing a decent sized font to be used.

    This was a nice surprise though; not quite Rail Alphabet but near enough!!
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    Not sure about that; commuters book 1st class on these trains to guarantee a seat, not because they expect Pullman-esque luxury. Getting rid of 25pc of the seats to make it more comfortable would, I suspect, only annoy people...! If LNR were an out-and-out Intercity operator I’d agree with you, of course.

    None the worse for that IMO. I’m pleased they’ve gone for a darker patterned carpet to hide the dirt better - the original light grey carpets looked terrible very quickly!

    The sockets on the /3s are mounted under the tables so you wouldn’t see them from that angle. I wonder if they’re doing the same on the refurb? If not that would indeed be a pity.
     
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    20190228_152131.jpg Tamworth now has new LNR signage
     
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    Really liking the interior images! Especially the grab pole colours. Stations signs are growing on me now didnt like them at first.
     
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    Same seats; just the difference between 1st and standard. The 1st class ones recline. In fairness, as mentioned upthread, the 1st class ones look less different from standard than they do currently because there are no longer any antimacassars.
     
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    I think the LNR scheme generally is a grower rather than a "love at first sight", but the "Trebor Mint" livery is really appalling. Too many vertical elements to work.
     
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    oh, so the 350s have some first class saloons and not just the little cabins...? but I'm still confused, because going by what you're saying about the difference between first class and standard class, the standard class seats look like entirely new seats, but the first class seats look like the originals retrimmed (the shells / backs of the first class seats look like the original Desiro UK shells / backs, whereas those of the standard class seats look completely brand new / different - see what I mean...?)
     
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    I think what you are thinking are 1st class seats (the recognisably “Desiro” type) are actually the standard ones and vice versa. Here’s a picture of the first class section of a /3 showing the same seats. (Couldn’t find a pic of a /1 from that angle but they are exactly the same).

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    New month, new list! Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 1/3/19).
    Mods - feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

    Stations
    Stour Valley Line (COV-WVH, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
    All WMT-operated stations between Coventry (exc.) & Wolverhampton (inc.) are in WMR orange & grey.
    >Canley: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Tile Hill: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Berkswell: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Hampton-in-Arden: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Marston Green: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Lea Hall: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Stechford: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Adderley Park: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Smethwick Rolfe Street: WMR signs/signage. (Updated as of 1/3/19)
    >Smethwick Galton Bridge: Network WM signs, LM signage (both levels).
    >Sandwell & Dudley: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Dudley Port: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Tipton: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Coseley: Network WM signs, LM signage.
    >Wolverhampton: WMR signs/signage.

    Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
    >Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Lichfield City: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Shenstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Blake Street: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Butlers Lane: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Four Oaks: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Sutton Coldfield: Network WM (Olympic gold) signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Wylde Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Chester Road: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts. (Updated as of 25/3/19)
    >Erdington: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Gravelly Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Aston: WMR signs/signage (inc. AVFC transfers), orange/grey lampposts. (Updated as of 25/3/19)
    >Duddeston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Five Ways: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts (updated as of 26/3/2019)
    >University: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts (updated as of 27/3/2019)
    >Selly Oak: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Bournville: WMR signs/signage (inc. Stirchley/Cadbury World transfers), Purple "Cadbury" lampposts (updated as of 27/3/2019)
    >Kings Norton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Northfield: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Longbridge: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Barnt Green: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Alvechurch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Redditch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Bromsgrove: non-standard signs, blue/yellow lampposts

    Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
    With the exception of Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway, all WMT-operated stations from Stratford-upon-Avon to Earlswood have LM Signs with old-style GWR lampposts; all stations from Wythall to Spring Road have Network WM Signs and the same lampposts.
    >Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
    >The Lakes: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Widney Manor: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
    >Olton: WMR signs/signage, orange/grey lampposts
    >Acocks Green: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
    >Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts; depot has orange/grey lampposts
    >Small Heath: Network WM signs, WMR signage, unpainted lampposts
    >Bordesley: Network WM signs, WMR signage, orange/grey lampposts
    >Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs/signage, orange/purple lampposts
    >Jewellery Quarter: Network WM signs, orange/black/grey lampposts/fences
    >The Hawthorns: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Rowley Regis: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Old Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Cradley Heath: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Lye: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Stourbridge Junction: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    (>Stourbridge Town: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts)
    >Hagley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Blakedown: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Kidderminster: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Hartlebury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Droitwich Spa: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Worcester Shrub Hill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Worcester Foregate Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Malvern Link: LM/old-style GWR signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Great Malvern: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Colwall: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Ledbury: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts

    Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
    All WMT-operated stations between Aston (exc.) & Rugeley Trent Valley (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with the exception of Witton (still in LM green/black).
    >Witton: Network WM signs/signage, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Perry Barr: WMR signs/signage, orange/grey lampposts (yellow handrails?) (Updated as of 1/3/19)
    >Hamstead: WMR signs/signage (yellow handrails?) (Updated as of 7/3/19)
    >Tame Bridge Parkway: Network WM signs/signage
    >Bescot Stadium: Network WM signs/signage
    >Walsall: Network WM signs/signage
    >Bloxwich: Network WM signs/signage (green shelters)
    >Bloxwich North: WMR signs/signage (green shelters)
    >Landywood: WMR signs/signage (green shelters)
    >Cannock: WMR signs/signage (Updated as of 20/3/19)
    >Hednesford: Network WM signs/signage
    >Rugeley Town: LM signs/signage

    Others
    >Water Orton: WMR signs/signage, orange/grey lampposts
    >Wilnecote: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
    >Coleshill Parkway: LM signs, unpainted posts (WMR orange shelter)
    >Stone: WMR signs, orange/grey lampposts & handrails
    >Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove
    >Coventry Arena: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
    >Bedworth: WMR signs/signage, orange/grey lampposts (updated as of 20/2/19)
    >Bermuda Park: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
    >Bilbrook: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Codsall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Albrighton: WMR signs/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (updated as of 26/3/2019)
    >Cosford: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Shifnal: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Telford Central: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
    >Oakengates: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Wellington: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
    >Penkridge: LM signs, old-style LMS lampposts

    Trains
    Class 139
    139001: LM livery, WMR branding
    139002: LM livery, WMR branding

    Class 150 (all to transfer to Northern):
    150105: LM livery, WMR branding
    150107: ditto
    150109: ditto

    Class 153 (all to transfer to EMT):
    153334: LM livery, WMR branding
    153354: ditto
    153356: ditto
    153364: ditto
    153365: ditto
    153366: ditto
    153371: ditto
    153375: ditto

    Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
    Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery


    Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground)
    172001: still with LO
    172002: at Tyseley for crew training/familiarisation
    172003: as per 001
    172004: as per 001
    172005: as per 001
    172006: at Tyseley for crew training/familiarisation
    172007: as per 001
    172008: as per 001

    Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway)
    172211: LM livery, WMR branding
    172212: ditto
    172213: ditto
    172214: ditto
    172215: ditto
    172216: ditto
    172217: final WMR orange/purple livery (updated as of 26/3/2019)
    172218: ditto
    172219: ditto
    172220: ditto
    172221: ditto
    172222: ditto

    Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery

    Class 323 (due to leave the franchise) - all in outgoing WMR livery
    323201, 203-216: not PRM compliant.
    323202: undergoing PRM conversion works & refurbishment.
    323217: PRM compliant, refurbished.
    323218-222; 240-243: not PRM compliant.

    (NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
    Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!
     
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    And a similarly updated list for the LNWR fleet/stations (as of 1/3/19).
    Mods - again, feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

    Stations
    WCML
    All WMT-managed stations on the WCML have two-tone green/white LNWR lampposts from Watford Jct to Acton Bridge (inclusive); Lichfield Trent Valley (still with LM green/black lampposts on both levels).

    >Acton Bridge: LM signs/signage
    >Hartford: LM signs/signage
    >Winsford: LM signs/signage
    >Rugeley Trent Valley: LM signs/signage
    >Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs/signage (both levels)
    >Tamworth: LNWR signs/signage (both levels)
    >Polesworth: LNWR signs/signage
    >Atherstone: LNWR signs/signage (updated as of 4/3/19)
    >Nuneaton: LM signs/signage
    >Long Buckby: LM signs/signage
    >Northampton: LM "Olympic gold" signs, LM signage
    >Wolverton: LM signs/signage
    >Milton Keynes Central: LM signs/signage
    >Bletchley: LM signs/signage
    >Leighton Buzzard: LM signs/signage
    >Cheddington: LNWR signs/signage
    >Tring: LM signs/signage
    >Berkhamsted: LM signs/signage
    >Hemel Hempstead: LNWR signs/signage (updated as of 4/3/19)
    >Apsley: LNWR signs/signage (updated as of 4/3/19)
    >Kings Langley: LM signs/signage
    >Watford Junction: LM signs/signage

    Abbey Line
    >Watford North: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Garston: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Bricket Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >How Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Park Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >St. Albans Abbey: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

    Marston Vale Line
    >Fenny Stratford: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Bow Brickhill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Woburn Sands: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Aspley Guise: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Ridgmont: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Lidlington: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Millbrook (Beds): LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Stewartby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Kempston Hardwick: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
    >Bedford St. Johns: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

    Trains
    Class 230 - all refurbished and in full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

    Class 319
    319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
    319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
    319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
    319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
    319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
    319219: Thameslink livery, unbranded
    319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded
    319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
    319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
    319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
    319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
    319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

    Class 350/1
    350101-109: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350110: LM "Project 110" livery, LNWR branding
    350111-114: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350115: LM livery, LNWR branding - undergoing LNWR interior refurbishment. (updated as of 26/3/19)
    350116-130: LM Livery, LNWR branding

    Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise)
    350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350233: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding
    350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350241: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350242: LNWR "outgoing" livery (updated as of 26/3/19)
    350243: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350255: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350256: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350260: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350261: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery
    350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding
    350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery

    Class 350/3 - all reliveried into full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe
    350368: Full LNWR livery with "Resorts World Birmingham" advertising branding
    350369: Full LNWR livery with "Edgbaston Cricket Ground" advertising branding
    350370: Full LNWR livery with "Cadbury World" advertising branding
    350371: Full LNWR livery
    350372: Full LNWR livery with "Liverpool" advertising branding
    350373: Full LNWR livery
    350374: Full LNWR livery with "Liverpool Airport" advertising branding
    350375: Full LNWR livery
    350376: Full LNWR livery with "Wizarding World of Harry Potter" advertising branding
    350377: Full LNWR livery with "RSC: Visit Stratford upon Avon" advertising branding
     
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    They started replacing the signage at Hamstead yesterday. No idea why the cross city stations haven't been painted yet. I did hear that WMT were speaking to AVFC at some point to discuss Aston and Witton being done out in club colours. Not sure if it ever came to anything. Theyd probably want to use the old ticket office as a trophy room
     
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    Villa trophy room? Why would anyone want to look at a dusty claret and blue carpet.
     
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    They’ve done the smaller signs at Hemel Hempstead now, and they feature the interesting addition of the words “Direct Trains to Birmingham International”.

    I’m not sure how good an idea that is really; maybe put it on a separate sign, and perhaps not on the London-bound platform! Also from May that will be true of every station on the south WCML...
     
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    It's a stupid idea like most of their "publicity" junk. It really isn't a patch on LM.
     
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    On 323217 as I write this. New seats are smart, but the lights are still depressing. Also the WiFi isn't working.
     
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    oh, I didn't realise that all the seats are actually original, just retrimmed! Being a standard class passenger I didn't realise the seat backs in first class were *that* different. Why have the standard class head resting areas been "winged"...?
     

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