Hardcastle
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Why no evening service if its so popular !
Maybe Stagecoach could run a Ingleton - Giggleswick - Settle - Skipton ...
I know we don't like what's happening but to be realistic, NYCC don't get sufficient funding from central government so they prioritise where the money goes and while I, and I'm sure the rest of us consider that public transport should have a far higher priority, that's not the council's view. That's something to bear in mind when the next local elections come round.
They seem to have been criticised for extending their popular 28 and 29 services to Skipton but this is only one of several initiatives from the company.
Maybe Stagecoach could run a Ingleton - Giggleswick - Settle - Skipton service on a two hourly basis
I think the problem is that these bus companies can cherry-pick the best bits and leave everything else to flounder. The direct consequence of their competition between Skipton and Burnley was that other bus routes, routes which were only viable because of the "premier" route, have now been lost.
It's a shame that there is no regulator to force Transdev to take on the lost Pennine routes. There should be, but there isn't.
Breaking News. Suggestion of new 2 hourly service starting up within weeks.
http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/11243492.Fresh_hopes_for_new_bus_service/?ref=var_0
That would be an excellent outcome. Well done Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire.
Let's hope it's not too successful otherwise Transdev et al will swamp the route and it will be bye-bye to another family run firm.
K&D would have to make any new services excluded from their current fares structure which allows off-peak travel across their network for under 4 pounds.
Transdev Keighley used to do that when they (rather than Burnley and Pendle) operated the Grassington buses on a Sunday.
Pennine's customer-facing presence wasn't brilliant, and there does come a point when that holds a company back. Though I do think Transdev were being predatory. As I said, it's a shame that the regulators can't force a predatory competitor to take on ALL services operated by a company they force into liquidation, rather than cherry-picking the best bits.
It will be interesting to note how long the discussions between NYCC and Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire will take, but it does seem to offer a far better travel option than the 16 seater vehicle emergency option. What it will need is sufficient passenger travelling support from those people who deem this to be an essential bus service.
http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/11243492.Fresh_hopes_for_new_bus_service/?ref=var_0
It seems that Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire are in talks to extend their KL to Settle service into Skipton to replace the lost Pennine 580 route.
Well done Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire.
Its a pity Stagecoach wont extend the Lancaster to Ingleton service through to Skipton.I am sure the service would be well used compared to Ribbles old 580 as it is a scenic route and would be well used by Now card holders and enthusiasts with day tickets
Burnley and Pendle used to run the route to Skipton so you could argue that Pennine muscled in in the first place - it depends how far back you go.
it is a scenic route and would be well used by Now card holders and enthusiasts with day tickets
That would be an excellent outcome. Well done Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire.
I think that's being rather harsh. Transdev have no recent history of being predatory
You reckon?
If I'm wrong do enlighten me.
Well for starters there's the way Transdev York put pressure on York Pullman's commercial services.
Then there's the direct Wetherby-Harrogate route that ConneXions Buses started that Transdev Harrogate copied with the 77 and then 771.
Transdev Yellow Buses and Shamrock down in Bournemouth?
Plus of course skipton-burnley as discussed in this thread.
So when Transdev decide to introduce a service like Burnley to Skipton, that's predatory? However, when Connexxions introduce Wetherby to Harrogate, then Transdev are the predatory one? That can't cut both ways!