I had it working on 125 on Wednesday.Has anybody managed to get the WiFi to work on those newer FLUs? (125 & 139)
I can get it to connect, but no log in screen appears to make the WiFi usable.
I had it working on 125 on Wednesday.Has anybody managed to get the WiFi to work on those newer FLUs? (125 & 139)
I can get it to connect, but no log in screen appears to make the WiFi usable.
Insufficient padding in the seats. If you bash the seat, you can see feel there is hardly any foam padding, much prefer the 379 seats which were upright and had enough padding.
Any chance of adding more cushioning in future ? Is that possible without affecting seat pitch ?
2 hour journeys on these hard seats is not a pleasant experience. 15 minutes perhaps acceptable.
Bring your own cushion, or suggest to your local on-station barista that hiring out cushions might be a great moneyspinner!
I suppose there is a risk that cushions with any depth could put your back in the wrong place against (what passes as) the upright cushion on the seat back, which could make it even more uncomfortable.
If you are referring to the entry to St Pancakes from the South, that has always created a dreadful noise due to the curvature of the track between King's Cross Thameslink and Pancakes lower level. I'm willing to be corrected, but that is the artefact of having a tube-style curve whereas the wheels are profiled for stability at 100mph. The 319s made a worse noise there if I recall, and 700s are actually substantially quieter over this track.... between St Pancras and Elstree & Borehamwood.
I do wonder if the designers ever travel on trains.
On first impressions, the noise they make when entering a station is dreadful - really squeaky and irritating.
... By far the worst thing was the seats - some of the most uncomfortable seats i've ever used on public transport. I had a back ache after the 20 minute(ish) journey.
The seat pitch is better than the airline seats on 465/0-2 and 466s, which are used extensively on outer suburban and over 1hr journeys in Kent.
I'm 6'2" and the acrobatics I have to do to fit into a Networker window seat without encroaching on my neighbour is far more tortuous than a 700.
...On first impressions, the noise they make when entering a station is dreadful - really squeaky and irritating...
I was stood at the southern end of plat.A (southbound plat) last week and the squeal on northbound entry is deafening, to the point I stuck my fingers in my ears when the following one approached.! I vaguely remember the 319s being worse also.If you are referring to the entry to St Pancakes from the South, that has always created a dreadful noise due to the curvature of the track between King's Cross Thameslink and Pancakes lower level. I'm willing to be corrected, but that is the artefact of having a tube-style curve whereas the wheels are profiled for stability at 100mph. The 319s made a worse noise there if I recall, and 700s are actually substantially quieter over this track...
Insufficient padding in the seats. If you bash the seat, you can see feel there is hardly any foam padding, much prefer the 379 seats which were upright and had enough padding.
Any chance of adding more cushioning in future ? Is that possible without affecting seat pitch ?
2 hour journeys on these hard seats is not a pleasant experience. 15 minutes perhaps acceptable.
I suppose there is a risk that cushions with any depth could put your back in the wrong place against (what passes as) the upright cushion on the seat back, which could make it even more uncomfortable.
I also tend to find that soft cushions on harder cushions give me lower back pain, but that could just be me.
"Hello, Claims Direct? I was given the wrong type of seat....."thats why seats used to have springs. Not only helping in cushioning but also as support.
There is back pain due to the movement of the train, and back pain due to hard seats and the impact forces travelling up the spine. There is also "numb bum" which can cause pelvic pain which can spread to the spine.
"Hello, Claims Direct? I was given the wrong type of seat....."
Ha ha...Wonder if anyone who now regularly uses 700s for more than an hour a day has noticed any significant back issues.
Thameslink frequency will then be progressively ramped up, with 20tph introduced in December 2018, 22tph in May 2019 and finally the full 24tph service in December 2019. Traffic Management (TM), European Train Control System (ETCS) and Automatic Train Operation (ATO) for passenger trains will come in during 2018 as planned, but Mr Gibb says these are not essential until May 2019.
Bloody hell, if it's like that at 1100 I hate to think what it's like in the peak!Whatever the merits or otherwise of the seating on Class 700's, these pictures illustrate precisely why the new units - of eight carriages - are needed. I was at Hatfield last Saturday and it was physically impossible to board the 11:00 to Kings Cross (09:56 ex-Cambridge).
A four-car unit, of ANY Class is woefully inadequate most Saturdays; throw in a bunch of football supporters and extra shoppers, and getting on at Welwyn Garden City is problematic. At Hatfield, people gave up trying to board, such was the crush inside.
Surely a train you can actually get on (even if you have to stand, in more comfort) is infinitely preferable to not being able to travel at all? !!!
Of course GTR have chosen not to make this situation better. Lucky it wasn’t a 387 but that is a different thread.Bloody hell, if it's like that at 1100 I hate to think what it's like in the peak!
Modern Railways reporting that 24tph will now not happen until December 2019, instead the increase will happen in stages.
http://www.modern-railways.com/2017/11/20/thameslink-improvements-coming-in-stages/
View attachment 39644 View attachment 39645 Whatever the merits or otherwise of the seating on Class 700's, these pictures illustrate precisely why the new units - of eight carriages - are needed. I was at Hatfield last Saturday and it was physically impossible to board the 11:00 to Kings Cross (09:56 ex-Cambridge).
A four-car unit, of ANY Class is woefully inadequate most Saturdays; throw in a bunch of football supporters and extra shoppers, and getting on at Welwyn Garden City is problematic. At Hatfield, people gave up trying to board, such was the crush inside.
Surely a train you can actually get on (even if you have to stand, in more comfort) is infinitely preferable to not being able to travel at all? !!!
View attachment 39644 View attachment 39645 Whatever the merits or otherwise of the seating on Class 700's, these pictures illustrate precisely why the new units - of eight carriages - are needed. I was at Hatfield last Saturday and it was physically impossible to board the 11:00 to Kings Cross (09:56 ex-Cambridge).
A four-car unit, of ANY Class is woefully inadequate most Saturdays; throw in a bunch of football supporters and extra shoppers, and getting on at Welwyn Garden City is problematic. At Hatfield, people gave up trying to board, such was the crush inside.
Surely a train you can actually get on (even if you have to stand, in more comfort) is infinitely preferable to not being able to travel at all? !!!
The next Moorgate service (if it's not 'cancelled due to a member of train crew being unavailable') after the 10:56 to Kings Cross, is the 11:03. This gets to Finsbury Park 22 minutes behind the semi-fast train.At least at Welwyn Garden City you have got the option of the 313 Moorgate stopping service, think of the poor people of Welwyn North or Knebworth who don't have that option
Just seen 700 131 heading north and getting a tow. Wonder where it is going. (At WGC around 0815)
Kl,any pics?Just seen 700 131 heading north and getting a tow. Wonder where it is going. (At WGC around 0815)
The next Moorgate service (if it's not 'cancelled due to a member of train crew being unavailable') after the 10:56 to Kings Cross, is the 11:03. This gets to Finsbury Park 22 minutes behind the semi-fast train.
A less-than-frequent traveller heading for, say, London Victoria, who allows themselves 40 minutes to cross London by tube would suddenly find this slashed to just 18 minutes if forced onto the slow train. Not acceptable when stock with selective door opening has been around way before the Class 700s were thought of !
Kl,any pics?
Okay.No. Was on a train leaving other direction.