How so, and how would you suggest it be run differently?NYMR are is too money orientated...
How so, and how would you suggest it be run differently?NYMR are is too money orientated...
Some of the longer heritage lines are becoming a mode of transport from A to B, in addition to being an attraction in their own right. A fair bit of the Summer traffic on the WSR seems to be families spending a day at the seaside in Minehead.
A preserved HST running at 40MPH, non stop to Minehead, followed by a steam hauled all stations train would satisfy both markets, and provide useful extra capacity.
Families would get an extra hour beside the sea, and enthusiasts could still enjoy the authentic steam experience.
Mention here is made of HST's. This scheme - apparently feared by many on the WSR - is something along the lines suggested in the above post.
http://www.mineheadraillinkgroup.org.uk/latest-news
Maybe some of the tickets could be a little cheaper on Pickering to Levishsm or mainly Grosmont. (For getting 26038).How so, and how would you suggest it be run differently?
Have you considered contacting the NYMR regarding their pricing regime? Too be honest having just received the annual accounts (minority shareholder) their passenger numbers seem to be holding up.Maybe some of the tickets could be a little cheaper on Pickering to Levishsm or mainly Grosmont. (For getting 26038).
May I ask why? And what has 26038 got to do with it?Maybe some of the tickets could be a little cheaper on Pickering to Levisham or mainly Grosmont. (For getting 26038).
I'd certainly not have a problem with a regular service working in from the main line, it was the idea of an HST just running internally which didn't appeal.It sounds as though they're more worried about an all day commuter style service, rather than the odd HST. I can imagine a regular return HST every week or so bringing in tourists might be good for the town and the railway (without taking up too many paths).
I'd certainly not have a problem with a regular service working in from the main line, it was the idea of an HST just running internally which didn't appeal.
Harry Potter WB Studio Tour is £33 child £41 Adult. NYMR target audience, typically not enthusiasts as repeatedly stated, gets a very good deal. Have you seen the crowds at “Hogsmead” station?Maybe some of the tickets could be a little cheaper on Pickering to Levishsm or mainly Grosmont. (For getting 26038).
Totally agree, without revenue there would be no preserved running. If lines need to do something quirky to attract visitors and new enthusiasm I’m all for it.They need to be money orientated unfortunately and its a privilledge to have so many in the UK, good luck to them.
Maybe some of the tickets could be a little cheaper on Pickering to Levishsm or mainly Grosmont. (For getting 26038).
Indeed - I think that's quite reasonably priced for a heritage line. Given the length of the line and large size of the operation, the NYMR has certainly never struck me as "coining it in", as far as I'm concerned they're one of the best preserved lines in the country for balancing commercial interest and providing a high quality, authentic historic experience. And they do actually provide cheaper fares in the low season, something which has been suggested on this thread as a good idea.Pickering to Levisham is £5.40 for an off peak single for a journey of around 7 miles.
If the only reason you can give is that the fares are too high, and yet many people are prepared to pay the fares, then I don't think that's much of a case to be honest.
Suggest you read this, which may give you a little more insight into the costs of running a railway. Essential projects, which cannot be covered by the annual fare income:Maybe some of the tickets could be a little cheaper on Pickering to Levishsm or mainly Grosmont. (For getting 26038).
A number of heritage railways often seem to have some capacity that's not fully utilised. Even the peak summer timetables sometimes have long lay overs at a teminus. Additional trains are run at gala days etc, so at some heritage railways, the platforms, signalling, etc could adapt and a special train laid on if there was an unexpected surge in passengers. Obviously requires a driver, loco/stock or DMU to be available, but there are some circumstances when I'm sure I've seen an additional service or two being slipped into the timetable on a particular weekend.
A number of heritage railways often seem to have some capacity that's not fully utilised. Even the peak summer timetables sometimes have long lay overs at a teminus. Additional trains are run at gala days etc, so at some heritage railways, the platforms, signalling, etc could adapt and a special train laid on if there was an unexpected surge in passengers. Obviously requires a driver, loco/stock or DMU to be available, but there are some circumstances when I'm sure I've seen an additional service or two being slipped into the timetable on a particular weekend.
I feel for the volunteers and staff at gala events. Sometimes the PTI looks sub-optimal.Even volunteers need breaks, lunch and the railway needs recovery time in case of a delay.
You can get volunteers to roster for gala duties a few times a year, but not on a daily basis. A gala can need 3x the number of volunteer shifts
I feel for the volunteers and staff at gala events. Sometimes the PTI looks sub-optimal.
Don't want to be a party-pooper but beer tents within a few feet of the platform, pop-up bars directly on the platform etc. is surely an accident waiting to happen?
26038 is a reason for doing the NYMR in the first place.May I ask why? And what has 26038 got to do with it?
Ok perhaps Grosmont for a 26 or BR standard 2-6-4 tank maybe,Suggest you read this, which may give you a little more insight into the costs of running a railway. Essential projects, which cannot be covered by the annual fare income:
https://www.nymr.co.uk/appeal/yorkshires-magnificent-journey-appeal
As for your personal observation, you're only interested in making the shortest possible journey, with one particular loco. Income £11, but you'll demand a refund if your desired motive power is substituted. Too fickle to bother with, when you can sell £64 family tickets to people who are happy to travel behind anything steam powered.
Honestly, you can actually work a Sulzer hard, very hard, over the Moors. For pity's sake do the full line, not just the flat bit to Levisham!