Virgin Trains (VTWC) new livery being introduced

[driver_m]

390135 has been painted in the new livery

That’s been done a while now. 136 and 148 have been done since. They don’t necessarily go in sequence with others asking why 137 wasn’t done.

 

[driver_m]

Just to update. 138 and 141 are now white. Just leaves 137 and 151-157 to be done.

 

[jonesy3001]

you think the last pendo that goes for repaint will end up in the new colours of the next franchise, first trenitalia?

 

[Bletchleyite]

you think the last pendo that goes for repaint will end up in the new colours of the next franchise, first trentalia?

Probably just white and they can vinyl over it.

 

[sufian123]

you think the last pendo that goes for repaint will end up in the new colours of the next franchise, first trenitalia?

Properly white. Plan for doing it this way was that franchise change it will be easy to take of the sticker and put the new name on. Saves cost of rebranding. For voyagers only 221101 got permission to do it. I might be wrong, that’s what I heard.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Properly white. Plan for doing it this way was that franchise change it will be easy to take of the sticker and put the new name on. Saves cost of rebranding. For voyagers only 221101 got permission to do it. I might be wrong, that’s what I heard.

The 390s were due to be painted anyway by the ROSCO as a mid life cleanup and corrosion preventative measure. A neutral colour was the way to go as Vinyls are the way forward, easily do the whole train or just parts of as required by the new TOC. Hopefully a descent livery!

221101 was just the ROSCO doing a demonstrator of what could be done. First Trenitalia are going to give them a re-fresh, whatever that means, as there only going to be with West Coast for the next 3 years.

 

[sufian123]

The 390s were due to be painted anyway by the ROSCO as a mid life cleanup and corrosion preventative measure. A neutral colour was the way to go as Vinyls are the way forward, easily do the whole train or just parts of as required by the new TOC. Hopefully a descent livery!

221101 was just the ROSCO doing a demonstrator of what could be done. First Trenitalia are going to give them a re-fresh, whatever that means, as there only going to be with West Coast for the next 3 years.

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Just an update of the VTWC livery list originally posted by @ TT-ONR-NRN ---- Updated 07 November 2019.

Virgin Trains West Coast
Livery status

Class 221 Super Voyagers
221101 Virgin "Flowing Silk - Full"
221102 Virgin Silver and Red
221103 Virgin Silver and Red
221104 Virgin Silver and Red
221105 Virgin Silver and Red
221106 Silver and Red - No titles
221107 Virgin Silver and Red
221108 Virgin Silver and Red
221109 Virgin Silver and Red
221110 Virgin Silver and Red
221111 Virgin Silver and Red
221112 Virgin Silver and Red
221113 Virgin Silver and Red
221114 Virgin Silver and Red
221115 Silver and Red - Bombardier titles
221116 Virgin Silver and Red
221117 Virgin Silver and Red
221118 Silver and Red - No titles
221142 Virgin Silver and Red
221143 Virgin Silver and Red

Class 390 Pendolinos
390001 Plain White - No titles
390002 Plain White - No titles
390005 Plain White - No titles
390006 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390008 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390009 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390010 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390011 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390013 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390016 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390020 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390039 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390040 Plain White - No titles
390042 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390043 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390044 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390045 Plain White - No titles
390046 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390047 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390049 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390050 Plain White - No titles - No Black window banding

390103 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390104 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390107 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390112 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390114 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390115 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390117 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390118 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390119 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390121 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390122 Plain White - No titles
390123 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390124 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390125 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390126 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390127 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390128 Plain White - No titles - No Black window banding
390129 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390130 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390131 Plain White - No titles
390132 Plain White - No titles
390134 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390135 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390136 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390137 Plain White - No titles
390138 Plain White - No titles
390141 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390148 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390151 Plain White - No titles
390152 Plain White - No titles
390153 Plain White - No titles
390154 Plain White - No titles
390155 Alstom Widnes for re-paint 06/11/19 (release 19/11/19)
390156 Virgin Silver and Red
390157 Virgin Silver and Red


Not long now before the painting into the new livery comes to an end (17 December 2019 approx.) and a new era follows with TOC First Trenitalia (AVANTI?) from 08th December 2019.

So long Virgin Trains. EE Andy b1

 

[FFFC 57]

Just an update of the VTWC livery list originally posted by @ TT-ONR-NRN ---- Updated 04 September 2019


Virgin Trains West Coast
Livery status

Class 221 Super Voyagers
221101 Virgin "Flowing Silk - Full"
221102 Virgin Silver and Red
221103 Virgin Silver and Red
221104 Virgin Silver and Red
221105 Virgin Silver and Red
221106 Virgin Silver and Red
221107 Virgin Silver and Red
221108 Virgin Silver and Red
221109 Virgin Silver and Red
221110 Virgin Silver and Red
221111 Virgin Silver and Red
221112 Virgin Silver and Red
221113 Virgin Silver and Red
221114 Virgin Silver and Red
221115 Virgin Silver and Red
221116 Virgin Silver and Red
221117 Virgin Silver and Red
221118 Virgin Silver and Red
221142 Virgin Silver and Red
221143 Virgin Silver and Red

Class 390 Pendolinos
390001 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390002 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390005 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390006 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390008 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390009 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390010 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390011 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390013 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390016 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390020 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390039 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390040 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390042 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390043 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390044 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390045 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390046 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390047 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390049 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390050 Virgin “Flowing Silk”

390103 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390104 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390107 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390112 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390114 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390115 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390117 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390118 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390119 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390121 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390122 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390123 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390124 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390125 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390126 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390127 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390128 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390129 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390130 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390131 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390132 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390134 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390135 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390136 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390137 Virgin Silver and Red
390138 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390141 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390148 Virgin "Flowing Silk"
390151 Virgin Silver and Red
390152 Virgin Silver and Red
390153 Virgin Silver and Red
390154 Virgin Silver and Red
390155 Virgin Silver and Red
390156 Virgin Silver and Red
390157 Virgin Silver and Red


Not long now before the painting into the new VTWC livery comes to an end and a new era follows with TOC First Trenitalia from 08th December 2019.

So long Virgin Trains. EE Andy b1

Interesting. So FT will have taken over the WCML before all outstanding sets have been repainted.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Interesting. So FT will have taken over the WCML before all outstanding sets have been repainted.

By my reckoning there are about 13 weeks left from now 04//09/19 until the franchise changes to (LMS) London Midland Scottish Railway operated by First Trenitalia or whatever West Coast becomes.

I presume a new re-paint will be due out anytime soon. I think it's about 2 weeks to re-paint an 11 vehicle Class 390. 7 sets to do, so i can see sets 156 or 157 being released in the new West Coast franchise livery for launch day on 08 December 2019, with any luck they may even have a Class 221 re-liveried.

 

[TrainTube]

The 390s were due to be painted anyway by the ROSCO as a mid life cleanup and corrosion preventative measure. A neutral colour was the way to go as Vinyls are the way forward, easily do the whole train or just parts of as required by the new TOC. Hopefully a descent livery!

221101 was just the ROSCO doing a demonstrator of what could be done. First Trenitalia are going to give them a re-fresh, whatever that means, as there only going to be with West Coast for the next 3 years.

Pendolinos aren't going to be displaced? They're staying with First and new fleet will replace the 221s.

 

[Entertexthere]

It's a shame that the Virgin livery is going, it isn't going to be the same without the little Virgin logo on the nose acting as a little smile. I hope First Trenitalia create their own tiny triangle on the front else it'll wreak the pendolino IMO!

 

[FFFC 57]

By my reckoning there are about 13 weeks left from now 04//09/19 until the franchise changes to (LMS) London Midland Scottish Railway operated by First Trenitalia or whatever West Coast becomes.

I presume a new re-paint will be due out anytime soon. I think it's about 2 weeks to re-paint an 11 vehicle Class 390. 7 sets to do, so i can see sets 156 or 157 being released in the new West Coast franchise livery for launch day on 08/09 December 2019, with any luck they may even have a Class 221 re-liveried.

The refresh of the 390's will have to be a good one, now HS2 project has been delayed until 2040 to Manchester. They will be nearly 40 years old by then.

 

[LOL The Irony]

It's a shame that the Virgin livery is going, it isn't going to be the same without the little Virgin logo on the nose acting as a little smile. I hope First Trenitalia create their own tiny triangle on the front else it'll wreak the pendolino IMO!

They could just remove it and do nothing coughcrosscountrycough

 

[EE Andy b1]

Pendolinos aren't going to be displaced? They're staying with First and new fleet will replace the 221s.

Never said Pendolinos were going anywhere. There here with West Coast now until at least 2031and beyond, if HS2 does get to Crewe, then HS2 Classic compatible trains will do most fast services and 390s relegated to doing more stops. Class 221s will be gone from WC in 3 years, supposedly, as you say replaced by 13 new Bi-modes and 10 EMUs.

The refresh of the 390's will have to be a good one, now HS2 project has been delayed until 2040 to Manchester. They will be nearly 40 years old by then.

Well let's hope it is a good one, £117 million should help. But let's hope it's done right.
I'm afraid now they might cram in even more seats now HS2 is delayed by at least 5 years from 2026 to 2031.

 

[Energy]

Never said Pendolinos were going anywhere. There here with West Coast now until at least 2031and beyond, if HS2 does get to Crewe, then HS2 Classic compatible trains will do most fast services and 390s relegated to doing more stops. Class 221s will be gone from WC in 3 years, supposedly, as you say replaced by 13 new Bi-modes and 10 EMUs.



Well let's hope it is a good one, £117 million should help. But let's hope it's done right.
I'm afraid now they might cram in even more seats now HS2 is delayed by at least 5 years from 2026 to 2031.

I haven't been on a refurbished GWR HST (sadly the mainline ones are now out of service) but those looked quite nice. Hopefully First will do a good job, to me the Northern ones don't look great and look rather cheap.

 

[jonesy3001]

post on twitter with 137 in plain white livery.

https://twitter.com/chrisiles_co_uk/status/1171302516421791744

 

[EE Andy b1]

post on twitter with 137 in plain white livery.

https://twitter.com/chrisiles_co_uk/status/1171302516421791744

Still got it's Black window bands though.

 

[sufian123]

post on twitter with 137 in plain white livery.

https://twitter.com/chrisiles_co_uk/status/1171302516421791744

Sad times no branding nothing left of it

 

[jonesy3001]

If they're changing franchises, they either probably didn't see the point or they've run out of the virgin vinyls.

 

[RealTrains07]

post on twitter with 137 in plain white livery.

https://twitter.com/chrisiles_co_uk/status/1171302516421791744

Doesn’t look right without a triangle

 

[RealTrains07]

I haven't been on a refurbished GWR HST (sadly the mainline ones are now out of service) but those looked quite nice. Hopefully First will do a good job, to me the Northern ones don't look great and look rather cheap.

The GWR IET standard interior looks awful and cheap and all

4 car HSTs still run between devon and wales if that helps at all

I could see First doing a good job with the 390s if they don’t replace the seats for cheap ones

It better be high quality considering the prices paid for now for virgin

 

[XCTurbostar]

Its ironic because 390137 used to be named Virgin Difference.. and now, its different from all other pendolinos.

 

[Energy]

The GWR IET standard interior looks awful and cheap and all

Well it was specified by the DfT, who seem to not try seats before specifying them.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Well it was specified by the DfT, who seem to not try seats before specifying them.

DfT were told you can have a seat costing £50, £100, £200 each so they just picked £50, cos it's cheapest and that is it!!

Does anybody from DfT actually use rail regularly? GWR interior is as bland as they come, thankfully LNER looks lots better. Strange how colour makes such a difference.

 

[Speed43125]

Its ironic because 390137 used to be named Virgin Difference.. and now, its different from all other pendolinos.

XD, bit sad they all lost their names really, TBH I'd had hoped more stock is named, but with TOC changes it just seems to get removed.

 

[Energy]

DfT were told you can have a seat costing £50, £100, £200 each so they just picked £50, cos it's cheapest and that is it!!

Does anybody from DfT actually use rail regularly? GWR interior is as bland as they come, thankfully LNER looks lots better. Strange how colour makes such a difference.

Yep, I think that by specifying better seats at least on the IEPs they could get more people onto trains. Having an uncomfortable seat really doesn't encourage people. Still it's the DfT who will always pick the cheapest and not the best.

 

[Harbornite]

Sad times no branding nothing left of it

Looks better without the naff looking silk effect. Shame the old Virgin livery is almost extinct on the 390s as it still looks fresh, but it obviously makes sense to ditch it.

 

[Entertexthere]

post on twitter with 137 in plain white livery.

https://twitter.com/chrisiles_co_uk/status/1171302516421791744

Reminds me of an 800...

 

[sufian123]

Looks better without the naff looking silk effect. Shame the old Virgin livery is almost extinct on the 390s as it still looks fresh, but it obviously makes sense to ditch it.

let’s see what the future holds. Silver was on pendo for years. Diet Coke livery. Be missed!