Virgin Trains (VTWC) new livery being introduced

[jonesy3001]

390137 is out in service today currently on this route to manchester;

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P58482/2019/09/11/advanced

 

[59CosG95]

390151 has now joined 390137 in being "starkers".

 

[joshy.fre_2003]

152 went in last night.

 

[sufian123]

How many left to be painted?

 

[EE Andy b1]

How many left to be painted?

Just the 6 now to be re-painted including 152.

 

[sufian123]

Just the 6 now to be re-painted including 152.

thanks any chance they’ll finish it by end of franchise date?

 

[EE Andy b1]

thanks any chance they’ll finish it by end of franchise date?

Approx. 2 weeks per set, so could be close.
6 sets = 12weeks. I reckon finished by the week ending 21 December 2019, or that last set could be released in the new First Trenitalia livery!!
Maybe.

 

[sufian123]

Approx. 2 weeks per set, so could be close.
6 sets = 12weeks. I reckon finished by the week ending 21 December 2019, or that last set could be released in the new First Trenitalia livery!!
Maybe.

thanks

 

[LeylandLen]

Two questions ..
1 will all the 390s lose their names ..?

2 I see 390151 has lost its branding, whats the lateset on the Rainbow pendo 390045 ???

 

[driver_m]

Still in pride as far as I know. It will probably eventually come off as it says Virgin on it. The only ones that definitely lose their names are the specific virgin branded ones. The cities and such will either stay on or removed at the end of the franchise. Though the Bangor/Chester ones have gone due to 390s no longer going on the coast.

 

[FFFC 57]

Still in pride as far as I know. It will probably eventually come off as it says Virgin on it. The only ones that definitely lose their names are the specific virgin branded ones. The cities and such will either stay on or removed at the end of the franchise. Though the Bangor/Chester ones have gone due to 390s no longer going on the coast.

I hope First reintroduce cast name plates once again. Vinyls seem a bit cheap and nasty to me.

 

[EE Andy b1]

I hope First reintroduce cast name plates once again. Vinyls seem a bit cheap and nasty to me.

Agree, cast nameplates are best. What have GWR done with the IETs? Vinyls. Although they might be tied by Hitachi.

 

[krus_aragon]

Still in pride as far as I know. It will probably eventually come off as it says Virgin on it. The only ones that definitely lose their names are the specific virgin branded ones. The cities and such will either stay on or removed at the end of the franchise. Though the Bangor/Chester ones have gone due to 390s no longer going on the coast.

Didn't the Bangor name transfer to a Voyager?

 

[EE Andy b1]

Didn't the Bangor name transfer to a Voyager?

Yes 221116. City of Bangor/Dinas Bangor.

 

[simple simon]

I saw 390 122 today - with plain white at just one end!

 

[EE Andy b1]

I saw 390 122 today - with plain white at just one end!

Must be stripping vinyls off then!! Why just one end though?

 

[Scotrail314209]

I hope first introduce something similar to the shield on the 390, it doesn’t look right without it

 

[simple simon]

I hope that this tweet can be seen... it has photos from both ends in 390 122 - one view is slightly blurred as the train was moving

https://twitter.com/citytransportin/status/1180238896577335296?s=20

 

[EE Andy b1]

I hope that this tweet can be seen... it has photos from both ends in 390 122 - one view is slightly blurred as the train was moving

https://twitter.com/citytransportin/status/1180238896577335296?s=20

Informed that 390122 was a tester at the one end to see how easy and what time was required to remove all Virgin vinyls. Apparently they are all going to be removed on Class 390s by the 07th December 2019.
Don't know what's going to happen to Class 221s yet. They will probably take some time to do as are in a mess anyway and will eventually be moved on but they might get the neutral treatment with minimalist "LMS" branding, if the WC does become LMS!!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Agree, cast nameplates are best. What have GWR done with the IETs? Vinyls. Although they might be tied by Hitachi.

The very curious thing GWR have done with the IETs is that each set carries two names, almost as if it was the driving coaches rather than the set that was named, in a very HST esque way.

 

[Speed43125]

The very curious thing GWR have done with the IETs is that each set carries two names, almost as if it was the driving coaches rather than the set that was named, in a very HST esque way.

Indeed, I think that's really the way to go when you have such long sets though. A 9 car sporting the same name 4 times feels a bit much. And being GWR the whole heritage of being like the classic stuff they replaced is quite nice.
That said, the simple VTWC style of just naming it 'City of Glasgow' ir probably best on such ubiquitous and as yet, relatively modern stock, as long as they don't copy Virgin but with First and call them something like "First Challenger''.

 

[Bletchleyite]

That said, the simple VTWC style of just naming it 'City of Glasgow' ir probably best on such ubiquitous and as yet, relatively modern stock, as long as they don't copy Virgin but with First and call them something like "First Challenger''.

I'd keep the city names, add a few more to complete the set, and call them "City Class Pendolinos".

First does understand the power of classic names - the names of the TPE 68s are all very Warship-esque.

 

[59CosG95]

I'd keep the city names, add a few more to complete the set, and call them "City Class Pendolinos".

First does understand the power of classic names - the names of the TPE 68s are all very Warship-esque.

Except 028 & 030, nicked from certain bastions of the WCML...

 

[387star]

Informed that 390122 was a tester at the one end to see how easy and what time was required to remove all Virgin vinyls. Apparently they are all going to be removed on Class 390s by the 07th December 2019.
Don't know what's going to happen to Class 221s yet. They will probably take some time to do as are in a mess anyway and will eventually be moved on but they might get the neutral treatment with minimalist "LMS" branding, if the WC does become LMS!!

Few years of a mess of liveries before things settle down for a long while ?


We have do many new companies there's few companies with undisturbed liveries

I guess southern is now one of the longest running

C2C could do with a better livery

 

[Ladder23]

I noticed today 2/3 trains passing me whilst working between Bletchley and MK which were in all grey, I’m not sure if it’s new, but I haven’t cottoned on before as I ain’t really keen on the virgin 390 trains, I did come to look for a thread on these and happened to see these recently bumped so obviously something is happening!

Now gives me something else to look for.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Except 028 & 030, nicked from certain bastions of the WCML...

And Felix

 

[driver_m]

As an aside, the station de-branding has also supposedly started.around the midlands and will be gradually spreading around.

 

[driver_m]

apparently the voyagers are to get a refresh of some kind before they leave the franchise to be replaced by the 23 new ones. No idea what exactly it entails, but it specifically mentions it alongside the refurb of pendos. Amongst some other proposals such as confirming the plans to go for the extra services and new destinations by 2022

 

[AlistairCowell]

390152 now repainted white. Only four red and silver Virgin Pendolinos remaining now!

 

[Speed43125]

390152 now repainted white. Only four red and silver Virgin Pendolinos remaining now!

which ones are they?
To be honest I thought for a second you meant only four hadn't been debranded, gave me quite the fright!