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That is my question, and I mean it seriously. Obviously many of us were somewhat optimistic at first, but after reading a number of press releases I’m considerably less optimistic about the Transport for Wales fleet upgrade.
First of all I found out that the new tram train services will not have toilets; those that will be replacing Pacers on services to Merthyr Tydfill, Treherbert and Aberdare - well trains for example the 0938 from Merthyr Tydfill take two hours to reach their destination. This cannot be ideal without toilets.
Secondly, the long distance fleet. A fleet of mainly two carriage trains with some three carriage ones? That’s like - no capacity growth whatsoever, when it’s badly needed on Manchester to Milford and Holyhead to Cardiff services. And even worse - the renders I’ve seen show ironing board seats and NO END DOORS.
So not only do we get no upgrade in capacity but a downgrade in seating and now a commuter style door layout that will bring in drafts and noise at every station call.
Sorry, but I’m not at all optimistic about this fleet replacement. What do you think?
First of all I found out that the new tram train services will not have toilets; those that will be replacing Pacers on services to Merthyr Tydfill, Treherbert and Aberdare - well trains for example the 0938 from Merthyr Tydfill take two hours to reach their destination. This cannot be ideal without toilets.
Secondly, the long distance fleet. A fleet of mainly two carriage trains with some three carriage ones? That’s like - no capacity growth whatsoever, when it’s badly needed on Manchester to Milford and Holyhead to Cardiff services. And even worse - the renders I’ve seen show ironing board seats and NO END DOORS.
So not only do we get no upgrade in capacity but a downgrade in seating and now a commuter style door layout that will bring in drafts and noise at every station call.
Sorry, but I’m not at all optimistic about this fleet replacement. What do you think?