Railway mile high club

[ralphchadkirk]

I could almost guarantee that the criminal wouldn't think twice about doing the same to you, and in that respect (and in all seriousness) Kernowfem can count herself lucky that she wasn't another "statistic".

Which is why the police exist. They are to protect the public - I.e. Us. Why not utilise something you've already paid for that risking your own health?

Let the professionals deal with the law enforcement.
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Unfortunately theses parasites do not think of the consequences of any of their actions. All they think of is themselves

The same could be said for those who would happily bash their skulls in with an iron bar.

Since GBHI is a worse offence than nicking a car, you're making yourself more of a criminal than them. I bet you wouldn't consider yourself lowlife scum though...
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Again I'm in agreement with ralphchadkirk. I'm getting less surprised by this and am thinking maybe it was our initial disagreement on some aspect of fares policy that was the aberration.
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Someone drilled a hole in the fence of the local nudist colony last night. The police are looking into it.

Yes, we do seem to agree on most things except fares issues!


I wonder how many members would support the houseowner who chased burglar down the road with a cricket bat, and giving him permanent debilitating brain damage.

 

[SS4]

Oh look, he was a career criminal. That fractured skull now looks far from too severe. He wouldnt have thought twice about nicking from some pensioner. Pushing them to the ground in an attempt to get off with the car. God knows what that could have done. As i said, a fractured skull is a very good way of making sure he cannot ruin the lives of other people. Ruin his instead. He deserves it.

Ah vigilantism. It's only a small step from hitting someone over the head with an iron bar to killing people because you don't like the look of them. If the government is far enough from the centre you get state condoned killings. That being said I can't blame Kernowfew from taking the actions she did yet, as she herself admits, a defender is very hard to steal.

Next time it could have been a pensioner, just as likely it could have been a young or disabled driver neither of whom are as newsworthy as pensioners.

Nonetheless this thread has definitely diverged from the metre high club, cheap innuendo and Ivo's flirting

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Nonetheless this thread has definitely diverged from the metre high club, cheap innuendo and Ivo's flirting

It's becoming more of a general chat thread now!

 

[Kernowfem]

Ah vigilantism. It's only a small step from hitting someone over the head with an iron bar to killing people because you don't like the look of them. If the government is far enough from the centre you get state condoned killings. That being said I can't blame Kernowfew from taking the actions she did yet, as she herself admits, a defender is very hard to steal.

Next time it could have been a pensioner, just as likely it could have been a young or disabled driver neither of whom are as newsworthy as pensioners.

Nonetheless this thread has definitely diverged from the metre high club, cheap innuendo and Ivo's flirting

A defender is not hard to steal. Mine is simply because i went to the expense of having a kill switch fitted. The theif could not have possibly known that.

 

[sprinterguy]

Which is why the police exist. They are to protect the public - I.e. Us. Why not utilise something you've already paid for that risking your own health?

Let the professionals deal with the law enforcement.
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The same could be said for those who would happily bash their skulls in with an iron bar.

Since GBHI is a worse offence than nicking a car, you're making yourself more of a criminal than them. I bet you wouldn't consider yourself lowlife scum though...
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Yes, we do seem to agree on most things except fares issues!


I wonder how many members would support the houseowner who chased burglar down the road with a cricket bat, and giving him permanent debilitating brain damage.

The police can only deal with a situation retrospectively, after the event has occurred, because it is impossible for the police to be everywhere all the time. I’d hardly stand by and let somebody steal something of mine while relying on the less than certain assumption that the police will be able to catch up to that person and trace whatever it is they took in the future. If a person goes out with the deliberate intention to steal something, they should expect definite repercussions to their actions. Knowingly giving that person a fractured skull or brain damage may be taking things a bit far, but it certainly seems fair to deck the b*st**d, or at least try to, and send them running.

Kernowfems’ response to her Defender being stolen was measured, rational and completely appropriate to the situation. Her reaction was a lot more rational than mine would have likely been in the same set of circumstances…

 

[SS4]

A defender is not hard to steal. Mine is simply because i went to the expense of having a kill switch fitted. The theif could not have possibly known that.

My apologies, I was unaware of that

 

[junglejames]

Which is why the police exist. They are to protect the public - I.e. Us. Why not utilise something you've already paid for that risking your own health?

Let the professionals deal with the law enforcement.

Yes, and a very good job they do as well. But sometimes they cant catch the criminal.
So, what do you do? You could hope the police catch the car thief, and possibly put some unsuspecting pensioners life at risk in the mean time, or you could make sure people are safe from this low life.
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Well that is slightly more than scaring somebody off, as they have already left the property, but at least some unsuspecting pensioner doesnt have to have his/ her life put at risk by this burglar now. Think of how many peoples lives could have been helped by these actions.

If this attempted burglary had taken place in an area close to one of my relatives, esp my gran, i would be extremely grateful for the actions of the homeowner. God forbid if the burglar went for my grans house next time. So, yes, the homeowner has possibly done a good deed.

 

[SS4]

but at least some unsuspecting pensioner doesnt have to have his/ her life put at risk by this burglar now.

Why do you always cite a pensioner? I assume it's because it's because they invoke a greater emotional reaction and are inherently more newsworthy. Weapons kill regardless of age (as for God forbid a kind and loving God would never allow it to happen)

I wonder how many members would support the houseowner who chased burglar down the road with a cricket bat, and giving him permanent debilitating brain damage.

And then demand he gets a job

 

[junglejames]

Ah vigilantism. It's only a small step from hitting someone over the head with an iron bar to killing people because you don't like the look of them. If the government is far enough from the centre you get state condoned killings. That being said I can't blame Kernowfew from taking the actions she did yet, as she herself admits, a defender is very hard to steal.

Next time it could have been a pensioner, just as likely it could have been a young or disabled driver neither of whom are as newsworthy as pensioners.

Nonetheless this thread has definitely diverged from the metre high club, cheap innuendo and Ivo's flirting

Woah. This is so different from killing people because you dont like the look of them. Its so different its not even on the same planet. Your are on about blatant murder for no reason. I am on about making sure pensioners cannot have their lives put at risk by car thieves etc.

 

[SS4]

Woah. This is so different from killing people because you dont like the look of them. Its so different its not even on the same planet. Your are on about blatant murder for no reason. I am on about making sure pensioners cannot have their lives put at risk by car thieves etc.

Whacking someone over the head because you think they're going to rob you is closer to murder than you'd like to think. If they die, it's murder (and good luck proving they were trying to rob you)

What if you were to invite someone to come around at night, stage an attempted robbery and injure/kill them? Not likely in a civilised society because the law is likely to get you (especially the former)

If what you're saying is true, those of us under 60 will be just fine

 

[4SRKT]

Uh-oh. Thread turns into another Liberals vs. 'Common-Sense-Voice-of-Reason' slanging match.

<backs [liberally] away>

 

[junglejames]

Why do you always cite a pensioner? I assume it's because it's because they invoke a greater emotional reaction and are inherently more newsworthy. Weapons kill regardless of age (as for God forbid a kind and loving God would never allow it to happen)




And then demand he gets a job

The reason i mention pensioners, is because they are usually the most vulnerable. Someone stealing their car could be too much for them. If my car got nicked, then my life still goes on, albeit severely inconvenienced. A pensioner meanwhile, could get extremely distressed. This could lead to things like heart attacks. The car thief may even push the pensioner over to get to the car. This could lead to broken bones, or worse.

If their werent any vulnerable people in the world, then fracturing a car thiefs skull would be OTT, as they are unlikely to put somebodies life at risk by nicking a car. However we have vulnerable people in the world. These people could have their lives put at risk if their car is nicked.
So this is why i mension pensioners. Because my point is only valid when there are vulnerable people about.
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Now i will add, I realise Ralph is going down the sensible route, and i fully respect that. I also realise the actions i am condoning could lead to some people going OTT and smashing someones skull in for stupid reasons, like pinching a penny sweet from a shop (unfortunately some people cant see the difference).

However, im not saying everybody should go round and do what i say. Im just saying that should someone hit someone round the head with a steel bar for trying to steel their car, or for breaking into their house, then I for one would never say anything against them. To me, they have possibly saved the life of some of the more vulnerable people in the country.

 

[sprinterguy]

Uh-oh. Thread turns into another Liberals vs. 'Common-Sense-Voice-of-Reason' slanging match.

<backs [liberally] away>

Yeah I’m not one for getting deeply involved with these more philosophical discussions, I want the sex back. Simple pleasures and all that…

 

[junglejames]

Yeah I’m not one for getting deeply involved with these more philosophical discussions, I want the sex back. Simple pleasures and all that…

Those with a one track mind!!!

Sorry, that pun was accidental!!

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Yeah I’m not one for getting deeply involved with these more philosophical discussions, I want the sex back. Simple pleasures and all that…

Yeah, Why not. It's too sunny for a full on debate!

 

[junglejames]

Whacking someone over the head because you think they're going to rob you is closer to murder than you'd like to think. If they die, it's murder (and good luck proving they were trying to rob you)

What if you were to invite someone to come around at night, stage an attempted robbery and injure/kill them? Not likely in a civilised society because the law is likely to get you (especially the former)

If what you're saying is true, those of us under 60 will be just fine

Actually, im not suggesting murdering anybody. Im suggesting hitting them around the head. The intent is not to murder them. So it could possibly be manslaughter. But its still very different to blatant murder for no reason. What im saying has a good reason behind it. Sorry if you cannot see that. I also realise what will hapen to you. I realise you will get life in prison if they end up dying.
Your making out as if i cant see the consequences. I do. Im just saying i wouldnt have a go at anybody that decided to take a bat to the thiefs head. They have possibly saved someones life by severely injuring a scumbag.

Staging a robbery just to kill somebody? What? Are you just trying to wind me up, or can you seriously not see what im saying?

Eh, I have been mentioning pensioners as a good example of those vulnerable in society. I havent said all those under 60 will be ok.

 

[Geezertronic]

Which is why the police exist. They are to protect the public - I.e. Us. Why not utilise something you've already paid for that risking your own health?

Let the professionals deal with the law enforcement.

Unfortunately when I was slashed on the arm by a would-be mugger in the mid 1990s (I still have the scar), there were no police around to assist me even though this happened in Birmingham City Centre. I believe I broke his nose for his trouble which left him running away with his tail between his legs and my wallet still in my pocket. Not that I condone what I did but he made me bleed first...

And that's all I have to say on that. Where's Ivo when you need him? He should have scared the car thief away - knight in shining armour and all that. Not that I am suggesting he is stalking or anything

 

[junglejames]

Oh, and its not if you think they are going to rob you. Its if they are robbing you, or in the middle of attempting to. Some stranger who is in the middle of breaking into your car is obviously trying to rob you.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Unfortunately when I was slashed on the arm by a would-be mugger in the mid 1990s (I still have the scar), there were no police around to assist me even though this happened in Birmingham City Centre. I believe I broke his nose for his trouble which left him running away with his tail between his legs and my wallet still in my pocket. Not that I condone what I did but he made me bleed first...

Self defence and justifiable.

 

[Kernowfem]

Maybe a slight link here....

A woman who had sex with a man on a train picked her handbag up only to discover he had nicked her purse and mobile phone, during the heghts of passion...hey ho!!

Pleasure/pain theory???

 

[SS4]

I wonder if the phone was set to vibrate

 

[Ivo]

What are we/you going to be discussing next in this thread? Pacer Wars? (Now there's something to bring back the postie )

And that's all I have to say on that. Where's Ivo when you need him? He should have scared the car thief away - knight in shining armour and all that. Not that I am suggesting he is stalking or anything

Oi!

 

[O L Leigh]

Deafeners are particularly vulnerable to theft for the same reason that they are popular to own. They are easy to dismantle. There was an item on BBC Countryfile about the problems of Land Rover thefts and they had a couple of chaps with wrenches and they reckoned they could have one stripped inside of a couple of hours. They then sell them as parts which are often worth more than selling the car as a whole and less risky for the criminals.

O L Leigh

 

[Ivo]

Nonetheless this thread has definitely diverged from the metre high club, cheap innuendo and Ivo's flirting

It's becoming more of a general chat thread now!

Gone are the times of my birthday I just counted; there were ~97 posts in this thread on March 31! (#259 to #355)

Am I forever going to be known as the Forum Flirt now?

 

[90019]

Am I forever going to be known as the Forum Flirt now?

Since you keep mentioning it and have put it in your sig, then yes, I think so.

See, I'm still here.

 

[junglejames]

Since you keep mentioning it and have put it in your sig, then yes, I think so.

See, I'm still here.

Yes, he does seem to be the only one to mention it. Me thinks he doesnt want us to forget. He must enjoy supposedly being a well known flirt.

 

[ainsworth74]

Me thinks he doesnt want us to forget.

Indeed the man doth protest to much methinks...

 

[142094]

Bloody hell - I go away for a few days and look at this thread now!

 

[Oswyntail]

Bloody hell - I go away for a few days and look at this thread now!

Yes - sex and violence, but in the wrong proportions

 

[142094]

Yes - sex and violence, but in the wrong proportions

Not sure if I can be arsed going back and reading 30 odd pages. I'll just have to have guess what has been said.