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To all the people complaining about Desiro bogey noise. Try sitting above the bogeys on a 170 or 379, you get this constant swishing/hissing noise especially over points!
Someone briefly remind me the reason behind all class 444s being used on the portsmouth direct line on a sunday? presumably because enough are spare
And why on a saturday are they all 450s and the via basingstoke gets 444s? something to do with 444s then working down to Bournemouth... interchangeability or what? Both are great trains.. are greater anglia's 360s as good? Not maintained nearly as well but interested to know?
(4): A selectable number of doors could open
You'll be pleased to know in the near future the 450/444s will be able to do SDOs where the all the doors that are accomodated on the platform will be released.
450/444s can and do SDO on a daily basis, The problem is you can only either release all the doors or restrict the released doors to a specific unit. An example would be Datchet railway station on the down side, when trains stop there you can fit about 7 coaches of an 8 coach 450 formation. But you are only able open the front 4 coaches, in the future we will be able to open all of the 7.
450/444s can and do SDO on a daily basis, The problem is you can only either release all the doors or restrict the released doors to a specific unit. An example would be Datchet railway station on the down side, when trains stop there you can fit about 7 coaches of an 8 coach 450 formation. But you are only able open the front 4 coaches, in the future we will be able to open all of the 7.![]()
Its not before time. I actually think the operation of 444/450 combos on the Portsmouth direct line was quite dangerous.
Ive seen disabled people in the wrong unit bursting in to tears and passengers operating the emergency door release at Havant when the switched out unit couldnt be switched back in again after a stop at Fratton.
2. Seat rake, the seats on 450s are much more upright than 444s, which are by far the most comfortable EMU in service.
A 444 is a poor mans 442
I'm still not sure I fully understand why SWT got rid of these. I cannot think of a more appropriate unit for a Waterloo to Weymouth service. They were absolutely excellent.
A 444 is a poor mans 442.
You should try travelling on one of the refurbished T&W Metro units... my ears are still ringing!My only gripe with being in a 10mile radius of a 450/444 is being deafened my the sharp tones of the door release!![]()
My only gripe with being in a 10mile radius of a 450/444 is being deafened my the sharp tones of the door release!![]()
You should try travelling on one of the refurbished T&W Metro units... my ears are still ringing!
No, honestly... the door opening tones on the refurbished Metros will make your ears bleed Have a listen...You should try those awful 379s then. Door Opening / Closing noises soo loud that you can head them from the other end of the coach - as if you were standing in next to the speaker!
I've always thought the 458's door alarms were worst than our 450/444s.
I'm still not sure I fully understand why SWT got rid of these. I cannot think of a more appropriate unit for a Waterloo to Weymouth service. They were absolutely excellent.
Not a fan of the Electrostar/Turbostar interiors. Seats on the turbostars aren't great...