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Does anyone think, due to leaving the EU. That the CE mark on electrical goods will be removed.
So you don't understand then. The withdrawal agreement is not a deal.
Thanks for confirming what I think a lot of us on here already thought about your grasp of the situation.
Either way, we are certainly relieved to have people such as you at the helm.
I agree. But leaving the EU isn't going to solve those problems and in several ways will make them worse than otherwise. Specifically the economy is likely to be smaller, particularly hitting those less prosperous areas, so the government tax take will also be smaller making it more difficult to invest. And the government will be preoccupied with Brexit and the aftermath, so less able to focus on the real problems.The problem is that in relation to keeping us in the EU the time for that discussion and the financial investment [in re-balancing to the North] needed was a decade or more ago.
You may be prepared to suffer for your beliefs, but you have no right to expect others to suffer for something they strongly believe to be wrong.Many leavers actually expected to suffer some degree of pain associated with leaving, I don't think it's right to insinuate that leavers thought / think everything is going to be pure sweetness and honey. Like everything in life it's a trade-off. Personally I've taken a (very slight) hit with interest rates falling, for example, which I fully expected and factored in to my leave vote.
You may be prepared to suffer for your beliefs, but you have no right to expect others to suffer for something they strongly believe to be wrong.
Nice to see how you are looking at the greater good.elements of mine, and many other people's, personal finances would have taken quite a hit
I love the way it’s framed up as “coping”, straight away with an inference of distress. I think back to all the dire predictions of empty supermarket shelves, people dying because they can’t get vital medication, Kent gridlocked, job losses galore, violence in Northern Ireland and all the rest, and strangely enough none of it has happened. On the positive side EU immigration has already shown signs of falling.
Of course! But you can’t take them in to your local MoT . You’ll have to do it yourself . Just go along to the Post Office for your free stickers to cover up the marks. The ones distributed in Ireland & Scotland will be easily removable, so it won’t take long to get rid off them when those countries are back home.Does anyone think, due to leaving the EU. That the CE mark on electrical goods will be removed.
Just like we went from "it's going to be amazing" to "we will just about be ok" from the Leave side.
I'm unemployed. I'm not claiming benefits so I'm not on the register of unemployment! But to be fair I'm not looking for a job at all, just waiting patiently for my pensions and annuities.I'm disputing that UK unemployment is at an all time low. Plenty of studies out there suggest the real figure is far higher.
Just a thread...Is this the right thread for an argument?[…]
When there's been no convincing reason given to Leave … and the details of Leaving are very different from what was suggested in 2016 … and there were blatant lies by that campaign … and there has been no attempt to recognize the concerns of nearly 48% of voters in 2016 … which according to polls had become a majority in 2019 … then it's hardly surprising that a significant proportion of Remainers find this very hard to accept.Absolutely, however if enough people feel the same way... I know loser's consent doesn't seem to apply much to the remain side.
I’d like to have an argument please.
I love the way it’s framed up as “coping”, straight away with an inference of distress. I think back to all the dire predictions of empty supermarket shelves, people dying because they can’t get vital medication, Kent gridlocked, job losses galore, violence in Northern Ireland and all the rest, and strangely enough none of it has happened. On the positive side EU immigration has already shown signs of falling.
When there's been no convincing reason given to Leave … and the details of Leaving are very different from what was suggested in 2016 … and there were blatant lies by that campaign … and there has been no attempt to recognize the concerns of nearly 48% of voters in 2016 … which according to polls had become a majority in 2019 … then it's hardly surprising that a significant proportion of Remainers find this very hard to accept.
The reason that not much has happened yet is that we haven't actually left the single market and customs area yet.
Maybe it's too early to suggest moving on. It's interesting - perhaps Leavers will never get over winning the referendum, rather in the same way that Britain has never really got over winning WWII.
This is not the right thread.Is this the right thread for an argument..?
I’d like to have an argument please.
One could quite rationally argue that it wasn’t really for leave to be making a case at all, as leave is simply returning the UK to the default state. If those who want to be members of the EU club (with its significant membership fees and requirements) wish to foist this on the country then they needed to make a strong and convincing case for that, which evidently they failed to do.
Yes, maybe. But that's just your prediction, which is just an opinion, yet you're framing it up as a certainty.
I'm sure I recall posts on here actively wanting Brexit to be a disaster, simply to prove a point.
I think leave voters got over "winning" (more emotive language!) the referendum the morning afterwards.
What will take time to heal is the sheer bitterness which has been seen from some elements of the remain fraternity, and the eagerness to embrace every single trick in the book to attempt to subvert and frustrate the result of the referendum, which is sort of summed up by Bercow's "every bone in my body" comment. I don't think we should just simply "get over" that, as it represents an ugly and cautionary period in the history of Britain's democracy - where one side simply refused to accept the result of a democratic exercise.
And it's not simply a case of people changing their minds over time, the day after the referendum social media was full of comments like "we don't have to accept this" or "this result is a mistake". Ironically, quite similar to the reaction from some of the Corbyn cult in response to December's election result.
Hopefully. I think EU countries have had enough of the Brits, here is what a Polish cartoonist has produced on Brexit. Translation is zone free from Great Britain:
It means you simply can't set off on a whim and expect to be let in with just your passport as happened before (example, someone in London fancying a Eurostar to Lille for some shopping the same day). You need to establish your ETIAS which takes around 72hrs as alluded to already - more if there's an issue.
What I can't fathom is the generally dismissive nature of certain responses to perfectly rational and sensible questions about whether that disruption is acknowledged or understood.
If you've any sense of empathy or even just a crumb of sympathy, I strongly suggest now is the time to demonstrate it. The long build up to what was the final exit date has seen people losing jobs, homes and in some cases families have been split apart.
This trend will continue and risks worsening if there is no final trade deal. Your responses on this particular topic continue to be obtuse and lack any sense of real understanding of what this actually means to people who aren't you. I'm Alright Jack isn't the approach to be taking to anyone who's experiencing hardship or uncertainty at a time like this. It's a real shame.
"Happy Brexit Day" notices telling residents "we do not tolerate" people speaking languages other than English have been posted at a block of flats.
A resident of Winchester Tower in Norwich first spotted them at 06:00 GMT on Friday, as first reported in the Eastern Daily Press.
The man, who does not want to be named, has reported the signs - which he said were on every floor - to the police.
He said: "It's heartbreaking that someone could think like this."
The UK officially left the European Union on Friday at 23:00 GMT after 47 years of membership, and more than three years after it voted to do so in a referendum.
The signs say: "We finally have our great country back... we do not tolerate people speaking other languages than English in the flats."
They go on to say "we are now our own country again" and the "Queens [sic] English is the spoken tongue here".
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Image captionThe block of flats is owned by Norwich City Council and is for tenants over the age of 55
The resident said he discovered the first sign as he was heading out of the block in Vauxhall Street on Friday morning, and returned to his own floor where he spotted the second notice.
He alerted the caretaker, who removed the signs, and a local councillor.
The caretaker told him the notices were stuck on the fire doors on all 15 floors of the Norwich City Council block of flats for tenants who are over the age of 55.
County councillor Emma Corlett advised the resident to report the notices as a hate crime and she also contacted her neighbourhood police team.
She said: "It's a really quiet block of flats with a good sense of community spirit and a lot of people have lived there for a long time."
The resident said: "It's heartbreaking not only for those it's directed at but also for the person posting it."
Norfolk Police have been contacted for a comment.
How about sticking with actual fact, rather than your reality. Grenfell (and other similar blocks) had been refurbished recently and (other than the cladding, obviously) met all the applicable standards. If not for the cladding a fire in any flat would have been contained for at least 30 minutes (as demonstrated by previous fires in other blocks).Grenfell was an ageing tower block built to poor standards...
How about sticking with actual fact, rather than your reality. Grenfell (and other similar blocks) had been refurbished recently and (other than the cladding, obviously) met all the applicable standards. If not for the cladding a fire in any flat would have been contained for at least 30 minutes (as demonstrated by previous fires in other blocks).
All the interviews I saw with residents said that, other than minor antisocial issues, they were more than happy with the flats, which were larger than is common these days.
Whether *I'm* alright isn't really important, as my vote was just one. Evidently 17 million other people also felt the benefits of being a club member do not outweigh the costs, furthermore two and a half years down the line the general election result reinforced this despite all the negativity surrounding the original decision.
As you say, there is a risk of worsening *if* there is no final trade deal. A lot of the uncertainty could have been avoided if we hadn't spent over two years struggling to come to terms with the referendum result. It's an interesting conjecture as to how things might have gone had Theresa May not lost her majority in 2017.
1) let population decline naturally,restiction to core immigration only,take the economic hit ,and plan for evacuations of high risk areas
2) let's have open house, nice short term economic bump, followed by climate" event" and then mass death+cannibalism due to cut off of available agriculture areas and usable port facilities, and all those extra mouths to feed.
It means you simply can't set off on a whim and expect to be let in with just your passport as happened before (example, someone in London fancying a Eurostar to Lille for some shopping the same day). You need to establish your ETIAS which takes around 72hrs as alluded to already - more if there's an issue.
And your passport has to have at least 6 months validity on it (maybe 6 months to the return date, I dunno?) so anyone who's passport is due to expire next year needs to bear that in mind.
These restrictions didn't even happen before we joined the EEC, indeed one could purchase an one-day passport for France from the Post Office. Welcome to the future and all the red tape it brings, when I though leaving the EU was meant to reduce red tape? Ha.
I love the way it’s framed up as “coping”, straight away with an inference of distress. I think back to all the dire predictions of empty supermarket shelves, people dying because they can’t get vital medication, Kent gridlocked, job losses galore, violence in Northern Ireland and all the rest, and strangely enough none of it has happened. On the positive side EU immigration has already shown signs of falling.
When you say "it's not about race", not entirely sure I believe you.