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Gogledd Penbedw dw’n meddwl
Dyna ti!Gogledd Penbedw dw’n meddwl
That sign would quickly " do the rounds" on the interweb, given that De means SouthWould love to see the signs.
"Birkenhead North
De Penbedw"
Yea I should have double checked!!That sign would quickly " do the rounds" on the interweb, given that De means South
Gogledd Penbedw dw’n meddwl
Perhaps it is time for the RailUK Male Voice Choir to sing a stirring rendition of Maw hen wlad fy nhadau.
Would love to see the signs.
"Birkenhead North
Gogledd Penbedw"
I’ll leave this on this thread too. Make of it what you will
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V65380/2019/06/23/advanced
Trying to work out how they'd get a unit up there to run that with.
Possibly stabling the night before??? I haven’t searched all of RTT
It’s not a 230 no. But it is a test run on their behalf.
I just heard the back end of a conversation this morning about it. Driver instructor and manager going over the line on a test and ALL the 230s ordered will be on this line only.
Nothing is set in stone obviously but the people talking know a hell of a lot more than me about it.
That’s all I know (and I’m using the word “know” loosely!!)
Thanks for the “gossip” really intriguing !!
I did say make of it what you will.
There's already some stabling space at Wrexham, in the bay platforms that WSMR used to store their stock.I believe on at least one occasion during the Arriva era, a unit was stabled at Birkenhead North overnight to enable an additional earlier service to run one Sunday morning from Bidston, I think in conjunction with some special event in the area.
Thinking about it, would it make sense for there to be some arrangement between TFW and Merseyrail/Stadler to stable or even maintain the 230s at Birkenhead North depot? As I understand it, heavy maintenance of the new 777 units will be done at Kirkdale, so maybe there would be spare capacity at Birkenhead from next year? If the 230s are to be confined to the Bidston-Wrexham line only, it would make sense to have maintenance facilities somewhere on the route.
Trying to work out how they'd get a unit up there to run that with.
Possibly stabling the night before??? I haven’t searched all of RTT
I would suggest this..
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V65379/2019/06/23/advanced
Here is the full running:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...3/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=AW
EMU-like acceleration with the Class-230 (1m p/s/s up to 40 miles per hour per this press release) will help reduce the time penalty for stopping, provided that the door release is quick too. (That's not currently the case with the Marston Vale units.)Just 47 minutes from Birkenhead North depot to Wrexham General (pass) for the ecs including 2 mins stood at Bidston compared to a typical 65 minutes passenger trip from North station with a good connection at Bidston and onto the all stations stopping service to Wrexham. Any room for future improvements ?
EMU-like acceleration with the Class-230 (1m p/s/s up to 40 miles per hour per this press release) will help reduce the time penalty for stopping, provided that the door release is quick too. (That's not currently the case with the Marston Vale units.)
They do seem to have settled down a bit more on the Marston Vale and we are hearing about far fewer problems. For instance I just looked and so far there have been no delays or cancellations today. Perhaps the lessons with those ones will reduce any issues with the Welsh ones?
I'd imagine the Hamilton Square layout would cause issues with no end doors for the James St idea, thinking on (the outbound trains towards Bidston go via a single bore tunnel), so Birkenhead North is probably as far as they could go - the DMUs did at one point, didn't they?
I believe on at least one occasion during the Arriva era, a unit was stabled at Birkenhead North overnight to enable an additional earlier service to run one Sunday morning from Bidston, I think in conjunction with some special event in the area.
Thinking about it, would it make sense for there to be some arrangement between TFW and Merseyrail/Stadler to stable or even maintain the 230s at Birkenhead North depot? As I understand it, heavy maintenance of the new 777 units will be done at Kirkdale, so maybe there would be spare capacity at Birkenhead from next year? If the 230s are to be confined to the Bidston-Wrexham line only, it would make sense to have maintenance facilities somewhere on the route.
The problem with Birkenhead North is blocking the road while tipping out and reversing. The Sunday service used to operate from Wrexham to New Brighton which could have provided a better means of reversing the service without obstructing the through road but the Bidston curve was removed back in the 80s.
Interestingly those paths do not include Birkenhead North station itself, just between the depot and Bidston. or me that would imply this:
Rather than implying a potential future passenger service.
If it is not going to be extended all the way in to Liverpool what is the point of extending it past Bidston as connections are already available there and by extending it to Birkenhead it is more likely to cause delays to the Merseyrail network.Remember there's the extra platform at Birkenhead North, you could tip out in there, then follow behind the next EMU and reverse. Probably achievable though it may need a bit of a timetable rethink.