SWR Repaints and Refurbishments

[Train Boy]

Yesterday, 159012 returned from PRM mods at Loughborough.

159013 went up on Tuesday.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Yesterday, 159012 returned from PRM mods at Loughborough.

159013 went up on Tuesday.

Does that mean 159012 received the new livery?

 

[James0804]

Does that mean 159012 received the new livery?

Yes it has

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Any news on fully refurbished Desiro trains?

 

[Train Boy]

Any news on fully refurbished Desiro trains?

Believe a completed 450 came out and swapped for an unrefurbed one yesterday, not sure on specific units though...

 

[swt_passenger]

Believe a completed 450 came out and swapped for an unrefurbed one yesterday, not sure on specific units though...

RTT suggests there have been moves in and out all week. As mentioned earlier the plan requires a 4 day turnaround and 4 units in hand.
The delivery path on completion is 5B96 at 0450 from Eastleigh Arlington to Basingstoke Barton Mill
The arrival path is 5B99 between Basingstoke BM and Eastleigh ARL arriving at 0049.

I suspect there are possibly more moves than people are noticing, given the times. Can’t help with unit numbers at all.

 

[Train Boy]

RTT suggests there have been moves in and out all week. As mentioned earlier the plan requires a 4 day turnaround and 4 units in hand.
The delivery path on completion is 5B96 at 0450 from Eastleigh Arlington to Basingstoke Barton Mill
The arrival path is 5B99 between Basingstoke BM and Eastleigh ARL arriving at 0049.

I suspect there are possibly more moves than people are noticing, given the times. Can’t help with unit numbers at all.

Admittedly, just popped the date to yesterday and had a quick check. Didn't check for the other days, apologies.

 

[swt_passenger]

Admittedly, just popped the date to yesterday and had a quick check. Didn't check for the other days, apologies.

No need to apologise. Another thing I noticed was that the moves are typically marked as N/R at the Eastleigh end, will this be because the works isn't fully signalled?

 

[Train Boy]

No need to apologise. Another thing I noticed was that the moves are typically marked as N/R at the Eastleigh end, will this be because the works isn't fully signalled?

That is correct, yes.

The ones that look like this http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/W94578/2019/01/25/advanced didn't run, not too sure what leads to this glitch occurring.

 

[Dan15812]

Please could we have an update on the desiro interior referbishments.

 

[RyanA-T]

444-001

444-002

444-003 Refurbished

444-004

444-005

444-006

444-007

444-008

444-009

444-010 Refurbished

444-011

444-012

444-013

444-014

444-015 Being done at the moment

444-016

444-017

444-018

444-019 Refurbished

444-020 Refurbished

444-021

444-022

444-023

444-024

444-025 Refurbished

444-026

444-027

444-028

444-029

444-030

444-031

444-032

444-033

444-034

444-035

444-036

444-037

444-038

444-039

444-040 Refurbished & SWR Livery

444-041

444-042

444-043

444-044

444-045


450-001

450-002

450-003 Partially Refurbished

450-004

450-005

450-006 Partially Refurbished

450-007 Partially Refurbished

450-008 Partially Refurbished

450-009

450-010 Partially Refurbished

450-011 Partially Refurbished

450-012

450-013 Partially Refurbished

450-014 Partially Refurbished

450-015 Refurbished

450-016 Partially Refurbished

450-017

450-018

450-019

450-020 Partially Refurbished

450-021

450-022

450-023

450-024 Partially Refurbished

450-025 Partially Refurbished

450-026 Partially Refurbished

450-027 Partially Refurbished

450-028 Partially Refurbished

450-029

450-030 Partially Refurbished

450-031 Partially Refurbished

450-032 Refurbished

450-033 Partially Refurbished

450-034

450-035 Partially Refurbished

450-036 Partially Refurbished

450-037

450-038 Partially Refurbished

450-039

450-040 Partially Refurbished

450-041 Partially Refurbished

450-042

450-543

450-544

450-545

450-546

450-547

450-548

450-549

450-550

450-551

450-552

450-553

450-554

450-555

450-556

450-557

450-558

450-559

450-560

450-561

450-562

450-563

450-564

450-565

450-566

450-567

450-568

450-569

450-570

450-071

450-072

450-073 Partially Refurbished

450-074 Partially Refurbished

450-075 Partially Refurbished

450-076 Partially Refurbished

450-077

450-078

450-079 Partially Refurbished

450-080

450-081 Refurbished

450-082 Refurbished

450-083

450-084

450-085 Partially Refurbished

450-086 Partially Refurbished

450-087 Partially Refurbished

450-088

450-089

450-090

450-091 Refurbished

450-092

450-093 Partially Refurbished

450-094 Refurbished

450-095

450-096

450-097

450-098

450-099 Partially Refurbished

450-100 Refurbished

450-101

450-102 Partially Refurbished

450-103

450-104

450-105 Partially Refurbished

450-106

450-107

450-108

450-109 Partially Refurbished

450-110 Partially Refurbished

450-111 Partially Refurbished & SWR Livery

450-114

450-113 Refurbished

450-114

450-115 Refurbished

450-116

450-117 Partially Refurbished

450-118

450-119 Refurbished

450-120

450-121 Being done

450-122 Refurbished

450-123

450-124 Partially Refurbished

450-125

450-126 Partially Refurbished

450-127

 

[Dan15812]

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[swt_passenger]

Have 444015, 450083, 450085 and 450121 finished?

Dose anyone know what's the next batch of desiros are being done?

I don’t think there’s any evidence they are done in batches.

 

[Goldfish62]

I sampled a full refurb today for the first time, 450119 and decided to try 1st Class. Looks nice enough and the tables are huge. The seats appear to be locked in the recline position which is my preference anyway. However it just feels cramped and I prefer an airline seat. I think most people will miss the wireless charging on the table.

 

[samuelmorris]

I sampled a full refurb today for the first time, 450119 and decided to try 1st Class. Looks nice enough and the tables are huge. The seats appear to be locked in the recline position which is my preference anyway. However it just feels cramped and I prefer an airline seat. I think most people will miss the wireless charging on the table.

Why was it removed?

 

[Bigfoot]

Why was it removed?

Why was what removed? Nothing in the quoted post suggests any removal.

 

[samuelmorris]

"most people will miss the wireless charging on the table"

Sorry, I read that as it used to be there but now isn't. Presumably it actually means nobody will notice it's there / make any use of it.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

I sampled a full refurb today for the first time, 450119 and decided to try 1st Class. Looks nice enough and the tables are huge. The seats appear to be locked in the recline position which is my preference anyway. However it just feels cramped and I prefer an airline seat. I think most people will miss the wireless charging on the table.

2 days ago, I was also on 450119, and apart from the orange grab poles in the vestibules, I quite like it. It looks much better than the partly refurbished 450s as the fully refurbished trains have blue grab handles by the seats and the addition of plug sockets in standard class is quite useful.

 

[Goldfish62]

"most people will miss the wireless charging on the table"

Sorry, I read that as it used to be there but now isn't. Presumably it actually means nobody will notice it's there / make any use of it.

Yes, sorry, perhaps poorly worded on my part. It's quite faint and not all that obvious. I tried my phone and it didn't work...

 

[Goldfish62]

2 days ago, I was also on 450119, and apart from the orange grab poles in the vestibules, I quite like it. It looks much better than the partly refurbished 450s as the fully refurbished trains have blue grab handles by the seats and the addition of plug sockets in standard class is quite useful.

Overall I agree about the appearance. Personally I prefer it to SWT colours, but it is let down by those orange grab poles.

 

[43096]

2 days ago, I was also on 450119, and apart from the orange grab poles in the vestibules, I quite like it. It looks much better than the partly refurbished 450s as the fully refurbished trains have blue grab handles by the seats and the addition of plug sockets in standard class is quite useful.

Interiors are a mess of styles after the refurb: orange grab poles, but blue grab handles as a start. Have a look at the interior signage, a mixture of SWR and SWT signs still present as well. It just screams of a cheap and nasty job which has a very low budget.

 

[Goldfish62]

Interiors are a mess of styles after the refurb: orange grab poles, but blue grab handles as a start. Have a look at the interior signage, a mixture of SWR and SWT signs still present as well. It just screams of a cheap and nasty job which has a very low budget.

The SWT signage has been changed to SWR. The signage you're probably thinking of is generic signage for all Desiros. It's the same on LNWR where the London Midland signage has been replaced, but the generic signage hadn't.

 

[43096]

The SWT signage has been changed to SWR. The signage you're probably thinking of is generic signage for all Desiros. It's the same on LNWR where the London Midland signage has been replaced, but the generic signage hadn't.

Although the Desiro style appears very similar to SWT's, in that case. Regardless, it is a confused mess.

 

[Goldfish62]

Although the Desiro style appears very similar to SWT's, in that case. Regardless, it is a confused mess.

No different to the different styles of signage on the 350s.

 

[andyc20050]

Have 444015, 450083, 450085 and 450121 finished?

Dose anyone know what's the next batch of desiros are being done?

450121 is complete and back in service.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

Full refurbishment of trains:
444003, 444010, 444015, 444019, 444020, 444025 & 444040.(16% complete)

450015, 450020, 450032, 450081, 450082, 450091, 450094, 450100, 450113, 450115, 450119, 450121, 450122 (10% complete)
Let me know if any more trains have been fully refurbished and I will edit this post regularly

 

[envirommc]

444015 is now complete and back in service.

 

[DennisM]

I thought I’d read somewhere that the toilets were being refurbished too, is that incorrect or no longer the case? Was on a refurbished 450 the other day and the only thing different was a vinyl wall with blue/grey diagonal stripes.

 

[Goldfish62]

I thought I’d read somewhere that the toilets were being refurbished too, is that incorrect or no longer the case? Was on a refurbished 450 the other day and the only thing different was a vinyl wall with blue/grey diagonal stripes.

I expect SWR regard that as a refurbished toilet. What the toilets could do with is the water nozzle adjusted so water doesn't spray everywhere and for the toilet paper dispenser to be modified so it doesn't shred the paper.

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

I know this question isn't related to this thread, and it's a bit random, but do the class 159s have door tones?(I haven't travelled on a 159 in a long time)