TfW to operate Class 37s on the Rhymney Line

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  1. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

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    Mod Note: Posts #1 - #32 originally in this thread.

    So TfW are getting 37s and Mk2s? Well, well, well...;)
     
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  3. PHILIPE

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    This has not been officially announced and the place is alive with rumours. Nothing to say it couldn't happen though.
     
  4. hexagon789

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    Fair enough, but still...
     
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    he said that the 37s were definitely coming, but maybe about as definite as the platform bashing... :D
     
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    Class 37's will be re-introduced on 0745 Rhymney - Cardiff Central and 1702 Cardiff Central - Rhymney from May 20th and then on 0724 Rhymney - Cardiff Central and 1732 Cardiff Central - Rhymney later towards summer. Locos provided by Colas rail (37418 + 37421)

    HST rumours for North Wales - Cardiff services are still a possibility later in the summer
     
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    Class 37 driver training for TfW started today according to a photo on Flickr.
     
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    oh gosh! got a link...? :)
     
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    sorry, didn't see your post earlier! 37-418 is interesting to me because that loco came to Aberystwyth as part of an engineering train even though it's a non-ERTMS fitted loco... what will the carriages be, Mark 2s...? and HSTs ey...? surely mini sets... i take it this is all to add temporary capacity and also allow units to be PRM-TSI modified quicker...?
     
  10. Cambrian359

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    Will they only operate 2 services a day?
     
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    2 in each direction
     
  12. Cambrian359

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    Seems like a lot of cost for such little use
     
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    That's how it worked for quite a few years in up until 2005. Just working in the Peaks. Would have to train many more crews and pay more higher track access charges if worked all day.
     
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    It's a 10 hour round trip. The most each set could possibly do is three runs, i.e. start at Holyhead and finish at Cardiff or vice versa.
     
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    Prior to December 2005 they ran all day on Saturdays. That would be easy to do again if they are push pull sets. They could even run through to Penarth.
     
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    10 hours Cardiff-rhymney round trip? Sorry that’s what I was referring to was the Cardiff - rhymney service
     
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    Think you’re getting mixed up with the new 37’s that have a timetable out apparently, and the rumour that GWR HSTs are coming. I’ve only heard mention of holyhead to Manchester for them. But like I said, just rumours at the moment.
     
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    In addition for all of about 3 weeks in December, as any HST sets and 37 + Mk2 sets will need to be taken out of service at the end of this year, unless TfW get derogations to carry on running them if there are still DMUs to be PRM modified and all of the 9 x 769s are still not in service come next January, with the argument that they are essential to prevent severe overcrowding maybe.
     
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  19. John Clausen

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    Yes crossed wires. I thought you referring to the HST rumour.
     
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    Nothing in RTT re: light engine moves or trial loaded runs Rhymney Cardiff using 37;s at the dates and times stated, though maybe these have not entered the system yet.
     
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    It's over a month until the new Timetable and things may not be 100% confirmed yet so don't get worried at this stage.
     
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    I thought the change in disabled access laws prevented Mark 2s from being used on passenger services (because of the lack of disabled toilet facilities) from the 19th May?
     
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    No, it's from 1st January 2020.
     
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    Don't take any notice of what you see on RTT, that is only the Timings used (Timing Load). My post has said nothing about a 769, it is a Class 37/4 and 4 Mark 2 coaches
     
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    Also not familiar with RTT,how do you work out it’s a 37/4?
     
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    You don't work it out from RTT. Sources of information tell you that. Any timings can be used so long as the Traction can maintain these times
     
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    Understood , thanks
     
  30. xotGD

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    Plus on this occasion there is a bit of a clue with the headcode.
     
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    Only one way or just co-incidence
     

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