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I'm sure it's not an urgent fault with the running of the coaches; could probably be fixed in no time at all on depot.
That shows a quite outrageous lack of attention to detail!
I'm sure it's not an urgent fault with the running of the coaches; could probably be fixed in no time at all on depot.
That shows a quite outrageous lack of attention to detail!
I'm sure it probably could but such things always provoke the 'if they can't get that right, what else might they have got wrong?' thoughts. That's really rather embarrassing that the unit was sealed in place before anyone thought to check if it was the right way up (unless there actually is a text system on that display that can invert the characters, a possibility but I don't see why)I'm sure it's not an urgent fault with the running of the coaches; could probably be fixed in no time at all on depot.
I'm sure it's not an urgent fault with the running of the coaches; could probably be fixed in no time at all on depot.
Nice video. Is it me or do the headlights look like they are flashing?3H22 ran over 365 minutes early again today after the run from Carlisle terminated early at Crewe for the third day in a row, I caught up with it at Gatley as it returned to Manchester International Depot. It was again 68032 along with set TP09, I will add in more images shortly when I've edited and uploaded them.
All super bright LED based headlights do that when filmed. It is the timing of the camera shutter/sampling and the super fast LED flashes. If you film a modern car with LED headlights you will get the same. The same effect gives you the scrolling lines on old cathode ray computer screens and makes it appear the wheels of a car are going backwards.Nice video. Is it me or do the headlights look like they are flashing?
Quite. Its commissioning bugs. People want these trains in service, is it not better they get their accumulation miles to find the more serious ones (Brake issues i'm looking at you) rather than worrying about a unit with the text display the wrong way up. It is just a pixel mapping, plenty of time to sort that out.The destination blind is a software issue that's turned the writing around (believe it's something to do with it being sent to the 68 and needs to be flipped but it's flipped the other end as well). It's being turned back to allow time at MID to do changes. The systems are being improved and little tweaks needed. I understand that they need to be in service quickly to alleviate overcrowding but personally I would rather they be tested and modified to allow them to give a long service.
Looks like today's runs are cancelled completely, if they were ever planned to run at all. So after a week of mileage accumulation, we seem to be back at square one then with zero fault free mileage accumulated. Time is ticking away if 2 sets are to be introduced from May.
I think the point being made was that if the runs were cancelled for a technical issue, the miles covered aren't 'fault-free' therefore the fault free mileage count is still 0. Whether this is actually the case or not, I don't know. Arguably, even if the counter is still at 0 but faults have been revealed, that is still progress, just not as fast as people would like.It's hardly being 'back at square one is it? As you say, there has been a week of mileage accumulation so we are now well beyond being at square one. Maybe TPE have a schedule that includes 4 days of running followed by a 3 day weekend where the units are used for static training or in the depot for their maintenance team to get their teeth into things. Or maybe TPE have been reading this forum and decided that getting the destination board right is much more important than fault free testing
I get that these units are much needed on TPE routes, particularly for those who travel daily during the morning/evening rush. However, I think some people are enjoying the fact that TPE have had some issues as it gives them something to moan about (this part of my response is a general one and not aimed specifically at @Ben Bow by the way). I remember posting on my football teams forum many moons ago, and there were certain people who used to thrive on a defeat and seemed disappointed when (on the odd occasion) we won and this reminds me of that.
With LEDs, it's the use of pulse-width modulation to vary the brightness of the LED (even though it is only ever On or Off at any particular moment).All super bright LED based headlights do that when filmed. It is the timing of the camera shutter/sampling and the super fast LED flashes. If you film a modern car with LED headlights you will get the same. The same effect gives you the scrolling lines on old cathode ray computer screens and makes it appear the wheels of a car are going backwards.
I think the point being made was that if the runs were cancelled for a technical issue, the miles covered aren't 'fault-free' therefore the fault free mileage count is still 0. Whether this is actually the case or not, I don't know.
Arguably, even if the counter is still at 0 but faults have been revealed, that is still progress, just not as fast as people would like.
I believe the latter, in lack of any factual evidence.But do we know for sure that any units have had to reset the fault free running mileage back to zero? Or are we just assuming that because some test runs have been curtailed early that there must be a problem with the unit?
Nothing that is happening has anything to do with TPE and nor are they calling the shots. TPE won't accept the trains until they have completed their requisite fault free running mileage. CAF are responsible for them until then and Freightliner are providing the drivers.It's hardly being 'back at square one is it? As you say, there has been a week of mileage accumulation so we are now well beyond being at square one. Maybe TPE have a schedule that includes 4 days of running followed by a 3 day weekend where the units are used for static training or in the depot for their maintenance team to get their teeth into things. Or maybe TPE have been reading this forum and decided that getting the destination board right is much more important than fault free testing
Fault free running isn't testing. They've been testing them, if you include that done at Velim, for about 1 year now. Fault free running is - we've tested them and now we just need to go through the formalities of handing them over, therefore if every run is curtailed due to faults there is no way that can be considered progress or viewed in a positive way.Precisely this and this makes the above points irrelevant in a sense. The whole point of testing is to locate any potential issues that could cause problems when in service and get them corrected so everything runs smoothly when passengers do indeed get to use them.
Nothing that is happening has anything to do with TPE and nor are they calling the shots. TPE won't accept the trains until they have completed their requisite fault free running mileage. CAF are responsible for them until then and Freightliner are providing the drivers.
As for whether the fault was due to the destination board, that comment was almost certainly made in jest.
Fault free running isn't testing. They've been testing them, if you include that done at Velim, for about 1 year now. Fault free running is - we've tested them and now we just need to go through the formalities of handing them over, therefore if every run is curtailed due to faults there is no way that can be considered progress or viewed in a positive way.
I'm not being defensive at all. All I'm doing is pointing out everything you have said is rose tinted glasses stuff and bears no relation to reality.You seem to be very defensive against my posts which are supposed to be in defence of the process TPE are taking. However, I would argue that fault free running is still a form of testing. It is still a test of the unit to ensure it runs smoothly over a set amount of mileage.
And why can't finding faults be a sign of progress? I would suggest that finding an issue and correcting it is a step closer to getting the fault free mileage complete and getting it into service
I'm not being defensive at all. All I'm doing is pointing out everything you have said is rose tinted glasses stuff and bears no relation to reality.
Fault free running isn't testing. They've been testing them, if you include that done at Velim, for about 1 year now. Fault free running is - we've tested them and now we just need to go through the formalities of handing them over, therefore if every run is curtailed due to faults there is no way that can be considered progress or viewed in a positive way.
And... I... Can... walk... 500 more....(I could walk 500 miles seemingly quicker than a Nova3 can be put into service)
Except that they are not blameless. They committed to running MkIII loco-hauled stock as an interim measure and just haven't bothered to do it. If they had there would have been 2 longer l/h trains and 2 DMUs running as 2x3-cars for a year or more now, plus drivers and guards familiar with working locos and coaches and only needing conversions to different stock when it finally arrives.Why the need to "defend" TPE? They are but interested bystanders in the current process.
Nice video, thanks for posting. Gives the opportunity for a good look at the coaching stock.Transpennine Express Nova 3+DRS Class 68 No.68032 at Carlisle with a Milage accumulation run
Please have a look at the video of the set at Carlisle