Trivia: Best value advance: £/mile

[calc7]

Rules:

• Full price adult single advance ticket
• No special TOC fares (MegaTrain, Print@Home etc) - ie you need to be able to get the fare on orange cards at a TVM
• Prices should be quoted in £/mile, mileage can be found on http://www.mileage.railmiles.org/

I'll start:
£3.50 for the 63m 08ch between Milton Keynes Central and Birmingham New Street, working out at £0.0555/mile ie 5.55p/mile
This is on the 0622 this Thursday, and all travel is on Virgin Trains (with a change at Rugby)

 

[causton]

I picked up the following from a TVM on orange stock so I don't see how it would be invalidated

Southern 90% off sale - 90p from Victoria to Brighton (50 miles)

£0.018 per mile (1.8p )

...Okay, I'll go find some that actually count!


Edit: Marylebone to Moor Street (Chiltern) - £5 for 111 miles
£0.045 per mile (4.5p) just beating yours!

 

[calc7]

I picked up the following from a TVM on orange stock so I don't see how it would be invalidated

Southern 90% off sale - 90p from Victoria to Brighton (50 miles)

£0.018 per mile (1.8p )

...Okay, I'll go find some that actually count!

To the spirit not the letter

 

[Brucey]

MKC to SOU (SN only) is £7.50 at full price (but Southern regularly have offers e.g. 10% off at the moment).

151 and 73 chains so roughly 4.9p per mile at the full price.

 

[4SRKT]

£3 Penzance > Gunnislake is going to take some beating for 94.5 miles, or 3.2p/mile. A damned fine journey to boot.

 

[wintonian]

Hmm wondering if Penzance to Dublin via London(valid ?) will soon be a contender here?

By the way railmiles isn't working for me ATM and they don't do nautical miles anyway.

 

[SS4]

750p/125.7875miles = 5.96p per mile

WVH - EUS via BHM


Not too sure on the distance since I work in metres and kilometres

 

[4SRKT]

Hmm wondering if Penzance to Dublin via London(valid ?) will soon be a contender here?

By the way railmiles isn't working for me ATM and they don't do nautical miles anyway.

Rail and Sail isn't valid via London unless this is unavoidable, basically meaning coming off Southeastern, C2C or parts of NXEA. Even from Clapham Junction the route shown is via Reading, and forcing the route via Euston stops the Rail & Sail fare from appearing.

Clearly a Rail & Sail fare will be a contender soon. Wick to Rosslare looks a good shout.

 

[CompactDstrxion]

Inverness to London Kings Cross, £17 advance, 568 miles 1 chain.

0.299p per mile.

 

[radamfi]

How do we apply the rules to East Coast Advances? They always have a discount when using the East Coast website, but do we still need to use the higher price when buying these elsewhere?

 

[Max]

Hull-London Kings Cross for £9 works out at 4.4p/mile, not too shabby really.

 

[4SRKT]

How do we apply the rules to East Coast Advances? They always have a discount when using the East Coast website, but do we still need to use the higher price when buying these elsewhere?

Assume you're buying them online and knock 11% off. Makes the Inverness > London one even more unassailable.

 

[CompactDstrxion]

Full price adult Advance single to me says no online discounts.

 

[wintonian]

Rail and Sail isn't valid via London unless this is unavoidable, basically meaning coming off Southeastern, C2C or parts of NXEA. Even from Clapham Junction the route shown is via Reading, and forcing the route via Euston stops the Rail & Sail fare from appearing.

Clearly a Rail & Sail fare will be a contender soon. Wick to Rosslare looks a good shout.

I'd like to disagree, fares from this end of Hampshire are valid via London (route: +ANY PERMITTED) even though the journey planners tend to send you up to crew on XC to change.

 

[DaveNewcastle]

Assume you're buying them online and knock 11% off. Makes the Inverness > London one even more unassailable.

Agreed.
You'll then just have to arrange some overnight accommodation and then some return travel, neither of which will be as cheap. I have never been able to find a headline price Advance to & from Inverness from anywhere in England which offers that journey on the evening northbound and again on the following day's southbound. Has anyone? (I acknowledge that this thread is not concerned with any round trip, just the price per mile of any component).

 

[Mojo]

I paid £9.95 for a YP discounted Aberdeen to Kings + Advance EC&Connections Single in March, including East Coast 11% online discount.

Just over 1.9p per mile. That's just over 2.1p without the EC discount or 3.2p without a Railcard and without the discount.

 

[CompactDstrxion]

The equivalent full price ticket for that one will be the lowest tier Aberdeen-London which is also £17.

 

[Mike395]

821m 41ch Margate - Wick via the WCML (VWC+Connections) - £29

Thats 3.5p per mile - not a winner, but still pretty cheap!

 

[OwlMan]

St Bees - Goole via Carlisle, Leeds & Doncaster £11-50 (23 Jan 2012 @1120) 207 miles at 5.55p per mile

A cheap way to travel over the S&C

Peter

 

[4SRKT]

I paid £9.95 for a YP discounted Aberdeen to Kings + Advance EC&Connections Single in March, including East Coast 11% online discount.

Just over 1.9p per mile. That's just over 2.1p without the EC discount or 3.2p without a Railcard and without the discount.

What is it with the online discount and without the Railcard? I think that's the correct answer because anyone can get the online discount at any time, but not everyone can use a Railcard.

 

[Mike395]

St Bees - Goole via Carlisle, Leeds & Doncaster £11-50 (23 Jan 2012 @1120) 207 miles at 0.0555p per mile

A cheap way to travel over the S&C

Peter

That really IS cheap Assume you mean 5.55p per mile :P

 

[OwlMan]

That really IS cheap Assume you mean 5.55p per mile :P

Yes of course (original corrected)
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
For a long day out

15 Feb 2012

Watford Junc.. dep 0602
Aviemore........ arr. 1439
Aviemore........ dep 1526
Watford Junc.. arr, 2314

Both ways via Glasgow

£29-00 each way
Total of 1059 miles (5.47p per mile)

Peter

 

[calc7]

Yes of course (original corrected)
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
For a long day out

15 Feb 2012

Watford Junc.. dep 0602
Aviemore........ arr. 1439
Aviemore........ dep 1526
Watford Junc.. arr, 2314

Both ways via Glasgow

£29-00 each way
Total of 1059 miles (5.47p per mile)

Peter

Almost certain those prices will be the same to/from Euston, pushing you to circa 1100 miles

 

[bb21]

I have a couple of ideas of CDRs using NRG anomalies to give circa. 2p/mile for a day return. Does it qualify?

 

[466.networkers]

Here's an Advance ticket I've purchased in the past:

Sheerness - Manchester
£7.60 with YP Railcard
234mi = £0.032ppm

Surely a winner? :P


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[4SRKT]

Here's an Advance ticket I've purchased in the past:

Sheerness - Manchester
£7.60 with YP Railcard
234mi = £0.032ppm

Surely a winner? :P


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Railcards don't count but it would be a good one even without.

 

[SickyNicky]

How about Stafford to Bootle (Cumbria) which is 155 miles @ £7?
That's 4.52p/mile

 

[466.networkers]

Railcards don't count but it would be a good one even without.

The fare without the railcard is £10.20 so works out as £0.04p a mile.

 

[Deerfold]

It is a "reader offer" but I don't read the newspaper required but I'm popping up to Edinburgh in January for a tenner (2.55ppm).

I'll be returning first class for 25 quid (6.38ppm).