Virgin Trains (VTWC) new livery being introduced

[sufian123]

Not yet, neither is 103 for some reason!

390104 was before 390123. However they doing 390123 but 390104 hasn’t been finished.

 

[EE Andy b1]

390104 was before 390123. However they doing 390123 but 390104 hasn’t been finished.

390104 is the Alstom/Longsight 175 years titled Pendolino.
390103 is the Poppy titled Virgin Hero.

You asked was 104 in the new livery and no it's not yet, not started and neither is 103 so both are out of cycle probably because of the above liveries or maybe not!!

 

[sufian123]

390104 is the Alstom/Longsight 175 years titled Pendolino.
390103 is the Poppy titled Virgin Hero.

You asked was 104 in the new livery and no it's not yet, not started and neither is 103 so both are out of cycle probably because of the above liveries or maybe not!!

Cool thanks

 

[59CosG95]

390104 has now gone into Widnes for its repaint. Only time will tell if it gets reunited with its "Alstom Pendolino" plates (in sticker form).

 

[59CosG95]

390002 and 390009 have now had black window surrounds applied.

Add 390044 to that duo.

 

[sd0733]

Add 390044 to that duo.

390042 also now fitted with black window surrounds.

 

[mrantcorr]

Whhisle do you have the
Pendolino Repaint Livery August 2017 PDF file to share? thanks

 

[E_Reeves]

Saw a pendo today (in the old livery) with the large Virgin logos removed and replaced with a much smaller logo saying 'Virgin Trains'

 

[XCTurbostar]

Saw a pendo today (in the old livery) with the large Virgin logos removed and replaced with a much smaller logo saying 'Virgin Trains'

I think that’s the business is great one (390151) with the flags removed.

 

[E_Reeves]

I think that’s the business is great one (390151) with the flags removed.

Ah yes, possibly could be...

 

[EE Andy b1]

Not sure which 390 this is, 104 or another perhaps, nearly ready for release by looking from Widnes today. (Sorry phone zoom quality).

 

[sufian123]

Not sure which 390 this is, 104 or another perhaps, nearly ready for release by looking from Widnes today. (Sorry phone zoom quality).


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Should be 390104. Went in before end of last year for a paint.

 

[Peter0124]

That suggests 390104 has not kept it's special livery.

 

[sufian123]

That suggests 390104 has not kept it's special livery.

That’s right. Virgin wanted it removed due to in case they loose the franchise.

 

[pt_mad]

Not sure which 390 this is, 104 or another perhaps, nearly ready for release by looking from Widnes today. (Sorry phone zoom quality).


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That picture in particular shows how much better thislivery looks with the black window strip.

What was the previous special livery on this unit?

 

[LOL The Irony]

What was the previous special livery on this unit?

It was the Alstom one.

 

[pt_mad]

It was the Alstom one.

That's a Shame. Does it keep Alstom in its name?

 

[LOL The Irony]

That's a Shame. Does it keep Alstom in its name?

Possibly as Virgin have only been changing nameplates with Virgin on them and 104 was called Alstom Pendolino.

 

[sufian123]

This could be 390124 as that’s in as well.

 

[pt_mad]

Also a note that whichever 390 worked the Liverpool, which called at Crewe at 1846 tonight, has one new blue style LED destination display on the side? The other, older greeny ones appeared to be switched off. Is this a trial on a 390 as up until now have only seen them on 221s?

1F19 I believe.

 

[59CosG95]

Also a note that whichever 390 worked the Liverpool, which called at Crewe at 1846 tonight, has one new blue style LED destination display on the side? The other, older greeny ones appeared to be switched off. Is this a trial on a 390 as up until now have only seen them on 221s?

1F19 I believe.

AFAIK 390047 is the only unit fitted in this way - it seemed to be stuck on "display" mode as it whizzed past me at Nuneaton earlier today. Normal practice is to switch the displays on again when approaching a station, I believe.

 

[EE Andy b1]

AFAIK 390047 is the only unit fitted in this way - it seemed to be stuck on "display" mode as it whizzed past me at Nuneaton earlier today. Normal practice is to switch the displays on again when approaching a station, I believe.

Correct 390047 only Pendolino with a trial white display on the door.
Should be on all the time the train reporting number is entered into the train management system (TMS), if working properly.

 

[59CosG95]

390001, 390006, 390013, 390043, 390044, and 390047 all have black window bands now, I should add.

 

[Peter0124]

390001, 390006, 390013, 390043, 390044, and 390047 all have black window bands now, I should add.

390002, 390005, 390008[Moustache Removed], 390016, 390042 can be added to that list

006, 008 and 013 are still in BEAM Livery alongside window bands

 

[whhistle]

I'm a bit surprised they didn't carry on the red swooth down the side like LNER.
I wonder if they would have, had they kept LNER or if LNER now somewhat "own" that livery?

 

[59CosG95]

I'm a bit surprised they didn't carry on the red swooth down the side like LNER.
I wonder if they would have, had they kept LNER or if LNER now somewhat "own" that livery?

If (and only if) VT happen to win the WCP franchise, they'll add more vinyls to the new livery. The livery on 221101 is what I expect the 390s to all look like if they do win. Whether more 221s will be overhauled at Ilford remains to be seen at this stage.

 

[Class455]

If (and only if) VT happen to win the WCP franchise, they'll add more vinyls to the new livery. The livery on 221101 is what I expect the 390s to all look like if they do win. Whether more 221s will be overhauled at Ilford remains to be seen at this stage.

Why was only 221101 done then? Are you suggesting that no more Voyagers will be done for the time being?

 

[59CosG95]

Why was only 221101 done then? Are you suggesting that no more Voyagers will be done for the time being?

It would appear so - Ilford also have their hands full with GWR 387 refurbs and LO 710 commissioning (not too sure about the latter).

 

[Class455]

390104 is now back in service, any idea which unit has now gone to Widnes for its repaint?

 

[Class455]

390002, 390005, 390008[Moustache Removed], 390016, 390042 can be added to that list

006, 008 and 013 are still in BEAM Livery alongside window bands

Shouldn't the "flowing silk" livery be so that there's red on the doors too, like the Class 800 and the Voyager had? It looks so much nicer on the Voyager with the continuous flow of red.