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Someone has posted that 803001 is on a test run today while others are saying it's just a Hull Trains unit they are using for driver training. Either way it just passed Doncaster.
It’s 802302 on hire.
Someone has posted that 803001 is on a test run today while others are saying it's just a Hull Trains unit they are using for driver training. Either way it just passed Doncaster.
803001 is back at Merchant Park factory, certainly not out on test at the moment.Someone has posted that 803001 is on a test run today while others are saying it's just a Hull Trains unit they are using for driver training. Either way it just passed Doncaster.
You can see the photos here: https://twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/1397460868619718656
They look rather similar to your beloved Grammars, the IC onesThanks. Interesting - what are they? The wings look rather large and I suspect might impact my shoulders, but if they are high enough up not to that might be good.
Seat looks OK - nice view of some plastic for some lucky passengers
I'd have said seat for a very cheap Advance at the window and an even cheaper Advance on the aisle once trains can be fully filled again which is what they'll be by the time these enter service.
I go by train to enjoy the view out of the window (along with all the other things that are rotten about flying) - but as long as these are clearly noted at booking time then it will be a win - win as people can avoid then / seek them out as they prefer. First could even do what many football clubs do, discount the restrict view - lowest tier = no view. Again as long as I have a choice I don't care.The plastic is great if all you want to do is sleep or look at a laptop.
Look at the number of air passengers who don't care about what's out of the window.
I go by train to enjoy the view out of the window (along with all the other things that are rotten about flying) - but as long as these are clearly noted at booking time then it will be a win - win as people can avoid then / seek them out as they prefer. First could even do what many football clubs do, discount the restrict view - lowest tier = no view. Again as long as I have a choice I don't care.
discount the restrict view - lowest tier = no view
On most flights the view out of the windows is clouds - not quite as appealing, though occasionally it is stunning.
It is, had some lovely views out of an aircraft, the alps, the northern lights. But in most cases to fly you have little choice. London - Edinburgh you do. Fly (not the best view, treated like and animal - wonder if this will change post Covid now airlines need customers), LNER or First. I suspect First will be my preferred option simply because it stops at Stevenage. But if they take and airline approach to customers then it will be back to LNER.On most flights the view out of the windows is clouds - not quite as appealing, though occasionally it is stunning.
What bugs me are the people who dive in the window seats, and them never so much as glance out, head firmly stuck in a phone or a laptop, when others (eg me!) would love to watch the world whizzing by!I go by train to enjoy the view out of the window (along with all the other things that are rotten about flying) - but as long as these are clearly noted at booking time then it will be a win - win as people can avoid then / seek them out as they prefer. First could even do what many football clubs do, discount the restrict view - lowest tier = no view. Again as long as I have a choice I don't care.
What bugs me are the people who dive in the window seats, and them never so much as glance out, head firmly stuck in a phone or a laptop, when others (eg me!) would love to watch the world whizzing by!
The same LNER who are heading increasingly towards running like an airline. The luxury of choice: airline, airline or airline.But if they take and airline approach to customers then it will be back to LNER.
The blinds are the one thing I would change in the class 80x trains. Even more than the seatsWhat's even worse is people who sit in a window seat, leaving a "blank wall" seat empty, and pull the blind down, ruining it for two rows!
The blinds are the one thing I would change in the class 80x trains. Even more than the seats
On the east coast, the blinds in First used to swing out towards you when the train went round a sharp curve! You had to put one hand out to brush it away and the other to stop everything flying off the table. I do wonder if the 803s will have the blinds fitted as, as you say, they were'n't found in Standard previously.I'd rather they were horizontal rather than vertical, then each seat would control its own. Or if not, get rid. They weren't the norm in Standard for years.
It's not anything I've seen before anywhere in the world, but I'll do more research tonight.Thanks. Interesting - what are they? The wings look rather large and I suspect might impact my shoulders, but if they are high enough up not to that might be good.
They used to have these "ear" / "wing" style headrests in early build Mk2 carriages.It's not anything I've seen before anywhere in the world, but I'll do more research tonight.
I can't really make out from the pictures what the covering is - it doesn't look like moquette and I don't think it is shiny enough to be leather - is it a flat cloth or some sort of vinyl?
How many more times does the railway need to learn this lesson? It's the definition of insanity: doing the same thing (using flat cloth) over and over again hoping for a different outcome (better quality/longer lasting/harder wearing seat covers).Looks like flat cloth to me.
Almost always a window seat for me on a flight, the wall or window also is a place you can lean your head against. Aisle seats are considered too on long flights.What bugs me are the people who dive in the window seats, and them never so much as glance out, head firmly stuck in a phone or a laptop, when others (eg me!) would love to watch the world whizzing by!
I think it was all Mk2s as new bar the last batches of the 2F which received IC70s as per Mk3s.They used to have these "ear" / "wing" style headrests in early build Mk2 carriages.
Only a couple of services each way from what I recall of the timetable. Not much better than LNER in that respect.I suspect First will be my preferred option simply because it stops at Stevenage.
They look better at first glance than the standard 80x seat but the proof is in the 'sitting' so to speak!Just seen this on Twitter, a different type of (previously unseen) seat on one of the new Class 803 units.
The seats are dark blue, with an orange line on the headrest. The backs are narrow, and the armrests look small, but there is a large winged headrest. They also appear to have three-part cushions.
You can also see a table seat to the far left of the image.
True. But the fact that it isn’t before 0700 is a big bonus.Only a couple of services each way from what I recall of the timetable. Not much better than LNER in that respect.
Yeah, now I've seen a better image, I think it is a variation of the Transcal Aerolite.Interesting seat design - possibly Transcal? The flat seat backs and their 'outline' are reminiscent of the Aerolite seats on their website (and in this VLR render).
If so, their selling point is low weight, on a par with seat designs used for airlines. Let's see how that turns out...
No, not possible.Is it possible these are the same seats as fitted to the Night Riviera seated coaches? If so, oh dear...