Matt Taylor
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I don't sign the 456s, does anyone know how passengers were evacuated given the lack of corridor connection with both vehicles off the platform?
I could be sure some of the bodywork of the leading coach looks twisted in the photos. If this is indeed the case, and not a trick of the light, it may make the structure unsuitable for further use, therefore perhaps a write-off...
Its more designed to protect the trains from errant excavator and crane booms, this way round is just a benefit to the workforce.
Surely Mk3-based kit has withstood far worse than a sideswipe?
Deary me. They've not even recovered the vehicles and the armchair experts/idiots have already decided the cause and repairability of the train....
Amount of drivel on this thread is exceptional even by the usual standards!
SET is saying on their website about a points problem and "in addition to this they are investigating a problem under investigation" :roll:
No, but only because as I said earlier they were switched off at about half twelve.
The firm that were running them is here: http://ography2.com
Before and after stills here:
http://sentry.og2.co.uk/images/ICE00012/2017-08-15/ICE00012-2017-08-15_054100.jpg
http://sentry.og2.co.uk/images/ICE00012/2017-08-15/ICE00012-2017-08-15_054200.jpg
Somebody posted a 'before' and 'after' webcam shot over in the main 'Waterloo Blockade' thread over in Infrastructure.
Interesting, looks like the 66 moved slightly - couple of feet maybe? - because of the incident.
I don't sign the 456s, does anyone know how passengers were evacuated given the lack of corridor connection with both vehicles off the platform?
Were there any passengers to evacuate from those carriages? It's was the very front of the train very early in the morning!
There were apparently 23 passengers on the train (higher than I would have guessed) but no breakdown of where they were sitting.
Deary me. They've not even recovered the vehicles and the armchair experts/idiots have already decided the cause and repairability of the train....
Amount of drivel on this thread is exceptional even by the usual standards!
A slow speed side swipe at Neville Hill killed at least a couple of HST trailers a few years ago!
Not really, did you miss the words "if", "may", and "perhaps" in the post you slag off?
Surely postulating theories and discussing things is what a discussion forum is all about?
There are times I would love to call up and ask 'why?', I'm presuming it wouldn't go down well?Likely road congestion blocking the crossing or waiting for a down to be in sync to close the crossing just the once. And like I say unless it's seriously kaput you'll find it padded into the time table.
You could always ring them up requesting an explanation, that tends to work [emoji38]
Couple more years you'll get used to the signallers ways
There are times I would love to call up and ask 'why?', I'm presuming it wouldn't go down well?
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Is it possible that the points were set incorrectly? Would the system have allowed that? If that is a possibility, would the driver have known it was the incorrect line on the route indicator (or feather) at the signal?
Is it possible that the points were set incorrectly? Would the system have allowed that? If that is a possibility, would the driver have known it was the incorrect line on the route indicator (or feather) at the signal?
Only 1 passenger amongst the first two cars.
If a signaller can set a route into a possession into interlocking that's not even been commissioned and probably not connected yet and managed to get a indication with a blooming great ballast train in the way, then there are some very serious questions to be asked?
If a signaller can set a route into a possession into interlocking that's not even been commissioned and probably not connected yet and managed to get a indication with a blooming great ballast train in the way, then there are some very serious questions to be asked?
The BBC have been repeatedly calling the incident a "partial derailment" - have we really got to the point where, if a train derails but not every single one of the wheels is in the ballast, it's now called a "partial derailment"?! It's either a derailment or it's not - or are we now in the territory of "almost unique"?! Good grief.
Indeed. Furthermore, I thought both sets of crossover points work in unison - if you look at my pic the wagon's bogie (far right of pic) is actually holding the points in the straight ahead position, so one wonders how the set facing the 456 could have been set towards the mishap? Unless there was a serious fault?
Please correct me if wrong.
Indeed. Furthermore, I thought both sets of crossover points work in unison - if you look at my pic the wagon's bogie (far right of pic) is actually holding the points in the straight ahead position, so one wonders how the set facing the 456 could have been set towards the mishap? Unless there was a serious fault?
Please correct me if wrong.
It might only be 2 stations, however when you are supposed to be running Clapham straight to Waterloo it adds a good few minutes to the journey. Of course I don't know what is happening in the signal box , however I do feel like at times that the signaller is a little scared to use the WR. The other day I was driving a Pompey UP via the Byfleet Curve, with the last two stations before Waterloo being Staines and Clapham. I ended up having to stop at a Red protecting North Sheen level crossing, with no trains being close ahead of us. I would like to know what exactly is going on in the signal boxes sometimes.
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