Class 377/7

[Deepgreen]

Unfortunately, they are not all strengthened - the 0830, for example, remains as four cars all the way to London Bridge and is very full when it leaves Redhill. The same applies to the 0937, which is not a peak train, but still leaves Redhill full to standing quite often.
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Absolutely - let's either have a proper first class policy or none at all - the present regime is a complete mess.

 

[Fincra5]

I can see why 1st Class is declassified on metro as most of the stock doesn't have a 1st Class.
I can imagine the reason 1st Class was retro-fitted / speced (new 377s) was to please the demands of the Coast-City commuters.
If you feel this strongly about the 1st Class being STD on 377s in metro we'll give you 313s and take the 377's back. Enjoy

As for train lengths.. where do you propose the trains come from? Will you provide funding?

 

[railfanatic]

It seems that they've been built and finished quite quickly! Mind you, there are only 8 of them.

Does anyone know what the interiors will be like?

Like this

 

[southern442]

I can see why 1st Class is declassified on metro as most of the stock doesn't have a 1st Class.
I can imagine the reason 1st Class was retro-fitted / speced (new 377s) was to please the demands of the Coast-City commuters.
If you feel this strongly about the 1st Class being STD on 377s in metro we'll give you 313s and take the 377's back. Enjoy

As for train lengths.. where do you propose the trains come from? Will you provide funding?

They are not complaining about FC being standard, they are complaining that the 377/6's FC is exactly the same as standard class. As you mentioned before, they were retro-fitted so that if they needed to be used for mainline services (and I believe there are no timetabled mainline workings) they have 1st, so the argument is pointless.

 

[Fincra5]

They are not complaining about FC being standard, they are complaining that the 377/6's FC is exactly the same as standard class. As you mentioned before, they were retro-fitted so that if they needed to be used for mainline services (and I believe there are no timetabled mainline workings) they have 1st, so the argument is pointless.

Aye but the 377/1+2+3 the FC is exactly the same to.. but you get a little head cover. For commuter trains it doesn't make much difference. 442s FC is very nice tho!

 

[Class377/5]

Like this

Or just like a 377/6? (with a pan).

 

[railfanatic]

Or just like a 377/6? (with a pan).

Yes. Or that.

 

[Class377/5]

Yes. Or that.

Nice photo tho. Hadn't seen that one.

 

[railfanatic]

Nice photo tho. Hadn't seen that one.

Cheers. I'll have more coming.

Update: 377701 will be out for passenger use end of this month..

 

[Class377/5]

Cheers. I'll have more coming. Perks of working for Bombardier I suppose

Update: 377701 will be out for passenger use end of this month..

You mean customer (Southern) as it needs to be commissioned first and will take awhile longer than 377/6 as it requires AC testing.

Sadly I've forgotten the delivery date I was told in the the class 700 excitement.

 

[railfanatic]

You mean customer (Southern) as it needs to be commissioned first and will take awhile longer than 377/6 as it requires AC testing.

Sadly I've forgotten the delivery date I was told in the the class 700 excitement.

AC testing going on here at the Derby test track. I might have gotten my dates wrong, apologies.

A frame from the Pantograph Camera (testing) -

 

[Class377/5]

AC testing going on here at the Derby test track. I might have gotten my dates wrong, apologies.

A frame from the Pantograph Camera (testing) -

Things change and my date may well have changed but pan testing at Derby isn't anything more than checking it works as you can't do proper testing there. Not sure where the 377/7 will be AC tested but likely tested and as the 377/5 on the WCML.

Nice photo again by the way.

 

[YorkshireBear]

All units need to do fault free mileage which i believe is only possible on mainline due to no major test tracks in the UK?

 

[MK Tom]

That picture looks like the wire just goes from the mast in the background to the insulator at the top of the frame. Probably just the darkness though!

 

[Class377/5]

377703 is the first unit to leave Derby leaving by 11mins late this evening.

EDIT:

377704 booked to move tonight (12/02)

 

[sd0733]

704 has definitely left Derby, saw it leave about 21:00 last night behind 66012.

 

[33056]

At Stewarts Lane now, 66012 / 67019 and barrier wagons on their way back north.

 

[Class377/5]

AC testing paths

5M51 00:02 Stewards Lane depot to Rugby
Stewarts Lane Depot 00:02
Victoria 00:16 00:40
Kensington Olympia 00:58
Wembley Yard 00:12 01:14
Watford Junction 01:19
Milton Keynes 02:26
Northampton 02:41
Rugby 03:03

5L52 03:40 Rugby to Wembley Yard
Rugby 03:40
Northampton 04:05
Milton Keynes 04:22
Watford Junction 05:28
Wembley Yard 05:47

5M53 05:54 Wembley Yard to Rugby
Wembley Yard 05:54
Watford Junction 05:59
Milton Keynes 06:31
Weedon 06:44
Rugby 06:55

5L54 08:29 Rugby to Wembley Yard
Rugby 08:29
Northampton 08:51
Milton Keynes 09:08
Watford Junction 10:01
Wembley Yard 10:19

5M55 10:33 Wembley Yard to Rugby
Wembley Yard 10:33
Watford Junction 10:46
Milton Keynes 11:30
Northampton 11:45
Rugby 12:09

5L56 14:23 Rugby to Wembley Yard
Rugby 14:23
Northampton 14:43
Milton Keynes 14:57
Watford Junction 15:55
Wembley Yard 16:01

5M57 17:50 Wembley Yard to Rugby
Wembley Yard 17:50
Watford Junction 18:05
Milton Keynes 18:36
Northampton 18:53
Rugby 19:17

5O64 20:35 Rugby to Stewarts Lane Depot
Rugby 20:35
Northampton 20:57
Milton Keynes 21:10
Watford Junction 21:42
Wembley Yard 21:58 22:19
Kensington Olympia 22:47
Victoria 23:08 23:18
Stewarts Lane Depot 23:33

 

[MK Tom]

What days are those?

 

[Class377/5]

What days are those?

Mon-Fri, but may not be all required.

 

[samj]

Will these be stabling in the bay at Rugby?

 

[Class377/5]

Will these be stabling in the bay at Rugby?

I don't know to be honest but guessing they do.

 

[Manchester77]

Have any 377/7s been out testing to Rugby yet?

 

[Class377/5]

No testing at all yet.

Was checking paths last night. DC ones used by the 377/6 are in the system until December. Possible 387 paths.

 

[Minstral25]

No testing at all yet.

Was checking paths last night. DC ones used by the 377/6 are in the system until December. Possible 387 paths.

Presumably these will be used for DC testing the 377/7's as well?

 

[Class377/5]

Presumably these will be used for DC testing the 377/7's as well?

Looks that way as the path exists all the way through to 12/12/14. However there are some variants that don't make sense unless your berthing during the day.

 

[samogers]

Will they be running as ten car trains on the WLL or will they run just as five car sets?
(If not, I would hope that the /2s would be run as 8cars as the route suffers from severe overcrowding)

 

[Manchester77]

5 and 8 car formations so that each service will have an increase in capacity

 

[samogers]

5 and 8 car formations so that each service will have an increase in capacity

Ok thanks

 

[Minstral25]

Have any been out testing yet? When do they go into Service on the WLL? I've seen work has started at West Brompton to extend the platforms.