First TPE's Nova brand for their new trains

[LOL The Irony]

A dining table perhaps?

Maybe a banquet table

 

[hexagon789]

Maybe a banquet table

Crash reg compliant of course!

 

[BeHereNow]

Over 100 more seats on a 397 than the 350 has and as such hopefully those extra seats and TPE not stopping at Wigan any longer should see full and standing trains go away on the Scotland to Man Airport via WCML route.

Does a 350 not have 210 seats, with the Class 397 having 286?

The idea of no standing between Lancaster and Manchester is unlikely, given that some already operate as 8 now.

 

[hexagon789]

Does a 350 not have 210 seats, with the Class 397 having 286?

The idea of no standing between Lancaster and Manchester is unlikely, given that some already operate as 8 now.

Is 12-car operation possible?

 

[BMIFlyer]

Does a 350 not have 210 seats, with the Class 397 having 286?

The idea of no standing between Lancaster and Manchester is unlikely, given that some already operate as 8 now.

Tip up seats not included. Nearly 100 seats then.

 

[hexagon789]

Tip up seats not included.

And how many of those are there? 8 per car?

 

[BMIFlyer]

And how many of those are there? 8 per car?

12 on each class 350

 

[hexagon789]

12 on each class 350

So average of 3-per car. Thanks

 

[BMIFlyer]

So average of 3-per car. Thanks

No. They are all in coach B

 

[hexagon789]

No. They are all in coach B

By the accessible loo, yes? I meant 3 on average compared to my assumption of 8 (4 per door vestibule), sorry.

 

[BMIFlyer]

By the accessible loo, yes? I meant 3 on average compared to my assumption of 8 (4 per door vestibule), sorry.

Just had a look...

4 by the small toilet, 9 by the big one.

So 13 in fact

 

[hexagon789]

Just had a look...

4 by the small toilet, 9 by the big one.

So 13 in fact

Cheers

 

[BMIFlyer]

Cheers

The plans are on the TPE website by the way.

 

[hexagon789]

The plans are on the TPE website by the way.

Oh right, I'll have a gander.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Is 12-car operation possible?

Just out of interest, what stations can accommodate a 12-car unit?

 

[hexagon789]

Just out of interest, what stations can accommodate a 12-car unit?

That's what I was asking.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

That's what I was asking.

You were asking a slightly different operational question but all I am interested in is the names of the stations concerned with suitable platform lengths.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Had top laugh at one of the reasons for the 'Nova' naming, "an explosion of light".....

For car drivers in past years, the Vauxhall 'Nova' never seemed to have that particular "sparkle".....

 

[hexagon789]

You were asking a slightly different operational question but all I am interested in is the names of the stations concerned with suitable platform lengths.

Poorly worded, apologies. I know the 350s can work with 3-sets in multi, what I meant was would 12 car operation be feasible platform length-wise.

 

[BMIFlyer]

Poorly worded, apologies. I know the 350s can work with 3-sets in multi, what I meant was would 12 car operation be feasible platform length-wise.

Not really.

The other issue is that the class 350 is not cleared to run at 110mph as a 12 car.

 

[hexagon789]

Not really.

The other issue is that the class 350 is not cleared to run at 110mph as a 12 car.

We'll that's a bit of a scunner

 

[YorkshireBear]

Just for a second imagine there was enough 397s to double up.

Am i right that only the airport and oxford road cant take them? The other platforms are all long enough?

 

[driver_m]

If you all want to know whether the platform lengths can take 12 cars .Have a look at the Sectional Appendix on NR's website which will give you the platform lengths.

 

[hexagon789]

If you all want to know whether the platform lengths can take 12 cars .Have a look at the Sectional Appendix on NR's website which will give you the platform lengths.

I've noticed it doesn't for all stations, though.

 

[hexagon789]

Also, I see to recall plans to get the 397s running at up to 115 on the WCML, has anything become of this or is it simply another one of those 'pie in the sky' WCML speed increases?

 

[rebmcr]

Just for a second imagine there was enough 397s to double up.

Am i right that only the airport and oxford road cant take them? The other platforms are all long enough?

13/14 is long enough for diverted 390/1s, so I don't think that would be a problem.

 

[td97]

Just for a second imagine there was enough 397s to double up.
Am i right that only the airport and oxford road cant take them? The other platforms are all long enough?

Yes because all the other stations can take 11-car Pendolinos.
It has been mentioned on the 397 thread that the Glasgow services departing Manchester and Liverpool (each 5-car) could join at Preston, and only use 1 path up the WCML.

 

[hexagon789]

Yes because all the other stations can take 11-car Pendolinos.
It has been mentioned on the 397 thread that the Glasgow services departing Manchester and Liverpool (each 5-car) could join at Preston, and only use 1 path up the WCML.

Which would seem the logical thing to do, it's all about using paths efficiently. Is the plan for 1tph or 1tp2h from Liverpool and Manchester to Glasgow?

 

[driver_m]

Just for a second imagine there was enough 397s to double up.

Am i right that only the airport and oxford road cant take them? The other platforms are all long enough?

Oxford rd is supposedly getting extended at the cost of losing p5 .( Big if though) The airport is definitely too short. Never been able to take any pendo in there of any size.

 

[Domh245]

Which would seem the logical thing to do, it's all about using paths efficiently. Is the plan for 1tph or 1tp2h from Liverpool and Manchester to Glasgow?

From memory, Manchester retains a similar service to now, and Glasgow gets something like 3/4 trains per day