It is,full of tech!The 700 is far better cab wise from a drivers point of view
With 100mph max they'd be great on the Great Eastern out of London, but we're getting those wonderful new trains...
Good to know, that's certainly the sort of route they're suited to. Is King's Lynn all Electostars now then?
Not quite. It's a gradual process.
Nice as the 365s are, there are now a lot of problems with the internal doors failing or sticking (both the mechanisms to slide and the motion sensors) and they still lack CCTV. The seat back tables are also looking rather worn.
Still some 365s to King's Lynn then? I take they are due to be fully replaced on those services though?
Last I heard was last 365s will be concentrated on Peterborough commuter services.
No 365s to KLN anymore, 100% 387s (excl. GA services). Still plenty of 365s to Ely though, which should last until May. AFAIK, from May, all Cambridge fasts will be 387s, with 365s doing Peterborough fasts. Baldock/Royston peak extras will be a mixture.
Adam
Thank you for the summary, much appreciated
Had a look the other night and there should be 2x3 car 387 services to and from Peterborough each morning and afternoon with the units stabling on the Nene Sidings each night.
3-car? I didn't realise there were 3-car 387s.
The other services being 365s then?
Meant 3x4 387 and yes. This is for May tho with the 387s and 365s only running to and from Peterborough during the peaks.
I see, I take it's Cambridge that they run to otherwise then?
Have a look for yourself.
Have a look for yourself.
Have a look for yourself.
Nice as the 365s are, there are now a lot of problems with the internal doors failing or sticking (both the mechanisms to slide and the motion sensors) and they still lack CCTV. The seat back tables are also looking rather worn.
1972 tube stock is already going through a second refurbishment and 1992 tube stock will get modernized in due course!The word everyone is looking for is maintenance...
Why is it that the railway nowadays seems to think it's acceptable to put a train in service, leave it for a decade and then do a 'refresh'? From a passenger point of view the age of a train *shouldn't* really make that much difference, not that a 365 is in any way old - they're roughly half-life, so should now be in their prime. I could understand the 365s becoming careworn up until last year as they were extremely intensively used, but their duty cycle is rather lighter now, and with units being released there's an opportunity to catch up on any backlog on the units being retained long-term.
London Underground is just as guilty of this - the likes of the 92, 72 & 73 stocks are in a pretty poor state nowadays - being pretty untouched since refurbishment, which in the case of the 72 stock was in the early 1990s! At least the 365s have had two refreshes during their time - even if in both cases it's tended to degrade the ambience.
1972 tube stock is already going through a second refurbishment and 1992 tube stock will get modernized in due course!
1972 tube stock is already going through a second refurbishment...
This will upset certain forum members
to be fair they are great trains
My first experience of a 365 was in 2001 when I holidayed in Hunstanton. Caught one all the way to Kings Lynn with the windows open hurtling through the numerous tunnels on the ECML was quite an experience!
Probably wishful thinking. TfL have repeatedly said in meeting papers and responses to GLA members questions to the Mayor that there would be no interim EMUs, as it isn’t worth the training and maintenance issues.On the 153's to Scotrail thread someone said they've heard about the 365's being used on the GOBLIN line to cover for late delivery of 710's surely that can't be right?