Sunday travellers drifting around Leeds station with no sense of urgency, particularly with those stupid Cases on wheels.
Why do some of you have such a downer on wheeled cases? They are a godsend for those of advancing age or limited agility, especially given the size of some stations these days!
I wouldn't want to carry a week's worth of luggage in a backpack, or even a non-wheeled suitcase.
Why do some of you have such a downer on wheeled cases? They are a godsend for those of advancing age or limited agility, especially given the size of some stations these days!
I wouldn't want to carry a week's worth of luggage in a backpack, or even a non-wheeled suitcase.
Because they slow everything down and always seem to be in the right place to trip over.
So how do wheeled cases vs non-wheeled, (presumably carried cases) 'slow everything down'?
Because people are forever stopping every five minutes and fiddling with their handles, if they're not defying instructions and taking them on the escalators, rather than in the lift.
If those were the only instances where they were used then I wouldn't have so much of a problem, but they are truly god awful things and their shortcomings are exacerbated by their frustrating prevalence:Why do some of you have such a downer on wheeled cases? They are a godsend for those of advancing age or limited agility, especially given the size of some stations these days!
Because people are forever stopping every five minutes and fiddling with their handles, if they're not defying instructions and taking them on the escalators, rather than in the lift.
I also suspect that a number of people are using these wheeled cases in order to convey far more luggage than they could otherwise carry. If you can't lift your own luggage (regarding those who are able-bodied), then consider travelling lighter. :roll:
I wouldn't suggest that people curtail their holidays, but to personally consider whether everything that they are taking with them is really necessary. I don't believe that a week or two away automatically requires 20kg of luggage, either - there's a risk of overplaying the "worst case" (no pun intended ) scenario, here.So it's OK for somebody to carry a case say 800x600x250mm weighing 20Kg but not to wheel it.
If you travel on trains that are on prime holiday routes, then you expect passengers who can't safely lift 20Kg in a case to curtail the duration of their holidays so that all their needs can be accomodated in a carrier bag, or not use trains because it might inconvenience you.
It is true that most of my gripes can be levelled at the poor design of the wheeled cases rather than the actions of the people using them, although a little more consideration before stopping dead at the top (or bottom) of a flight of escalators wouldn't go amiss.They are not bad habits, they are just ordinary people doing what everybody else does on trains, i.e. travelling to where they need/want to go, paying for the privilege and according to the NRCoCs.
If those were the only instances where they were used then I wouldn't have so much of a problem, but they are truly god awful things and their shortcomings are exacerbated by their frustrating prevalence:
- The length of their ridiculous handles means that the "footprint" for the average human being is multiplied threefold in length.
[*]Related to this it means that people take on the characteristics of an articulated lorry - functioning as a two piece "unit" - when turning through ninety degrees or more, which reduces greatly the opportunities to get around these people or cut across behind them.
[*]They are a horrendous trip hazard as their top edge is generally at little more than knee height as they are being pulled along, making them all but invisible amongst a large number of people and outside of the immediate field of vision when focusing on navigating such crowds.
[*]As yorksrob says their owners are also constantly fiddling with the damn handles: Stop at the top of the escalators to retract the handle and lift, stop at the bottom of the escalators to extend the handle, stop at the entrance of the train to retract the handle and lift onboard...
I also suspect that a number of people are using these wheeled cases in order to convey far more luggage than they could otherwise carry. If you can't lift your own luggage (regarding those who are able-bodied), then consider travelling lighter. :roll:
Yes, and they're poorly designed.The 'ridiculous handles' are designed to be used by people to pull the case along.
Yes, I am, though that is hardly relevant as people do not typically exhibit the same behaviour as an articulated lorry, while this is something that is being accounted for when sharing road space with the genuine article.I take it you aren't a cyclist as by now you might have had a mishap.
Correct, and I do in fact act as you suggest, but it's one more thing to look out for - an unnecessary hazard.Only to those who are in such a rush as not to look where they are going. Use some sense, - if there is a gap next to or behind somebody moving at the same speed as they are walking, there's probably something in that space.
By using a case that doesn't need to be converted between the wheeled and carried form in quite so manual a fashion. Either by using a carried case or rucksack or, again, an opportunity for someone to look into the design of the handles on wheeled cases.If the PTI doesn't allow them to wheel the case on, how do you expeact them to board?
No, hence the caveat "regarding those who are able-bodied" and my previous comment suggesting that their might be a purpose to these wheeled cases in assisting those that are frail or less able. They just don't need to be everywhere.So only fit and/or healthy people can carry the luggage that they might need.
Indeed, that is for the individual to assess.I don't see how any of us here can judge whether they do need what they take especially as they struggle with it.
Yes, and they're poorly designed.
By using a case that doesn't need to be converted between the wheeled and carried form in quite so manual a fashion. Either by using a carried case or rucksack or, again, an opportunity for someone to look into the design of the handles on wheeled cases.
No, hence the caveat "regarding those who are able-bodied" and my previous comment suggesting that their might be a purpose to these wheeled cases in assisting those that are frail or less able. They just don't need to be everywhere.
Indeed, that is for the individual to assess.
Undoubtedly - I have very little idea, and even less interest, in such things. It does surprise me however that more people do not view these cases as being poorly designed for busy airports or transport interchanges. There seem to be so many disadvantages to them in a crowded environment as to outweigh the advantages to the individual.I'm sure that Antler, Samsonite et al know far more than you or I about how case handles and wheels work in practice.
I strongly suspect that to be somewhat hyperbolic, as otherwise, based on the prevalence of these cases at major transport interchanges, we clearly have an epidemic that has gone unreported. hock:It maybe that many of those now using wheeled cases have damaged backs caused by carrying heavy cases long distances.
Smelly people and smelly food too, I agree are not nice. The train I boarded on the way home last night was rather "Ripe" shall we say, but it was a hot day and that train did not have air con. Summer days on the old circle line trains could be rather pungent too. In days when smoking was allowed, your clothes could reek of stales fags too.
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Only to those who are in such a rush as not to look where they are going. Use some sense, - if there is a gap next to or behind somebody moving at the same speed as they are walking, there's probably something in that space.
That's just another 'people less fit/in a hurry than me shouldn't get in my way' statement.
So only fit and/or healthy people can carry the luggage that they might need. I don't see how any of us here can judge whether they do need what they take especially as they struggle with it. Unless they carry too much just to annoy people like you.
So it's no problem at all that they cause congestion in the same manner that a motorised scooter on an A-road does? Similarly they're more difficult to overtake and are often in the mathematically worst place to be (flow rate = cross sectional area * velocity or Q = Av) so a low speed at the widest area throttles the flow
Your second sentence does not follow on from your first. I would argue staying out of the way of those faster is being considerate.
On the flip side of that coin, why shouldn't those who are moving more slowly show some slight consideration for other rail users and awareness of their surroundings, and give those who are moving faster - potentially to make an onward connection or an urgent appointment, etc. - the opportunity to pass?Anybody who pays for a ticket has an equal right to travel as you. I don't see why they should stand aside to let the impatient ones push past.
Just Keep Calm and Get Over It.
Anybody who pays for a ticket has an equal right to travel as you. I don't see why they should stand aside to let the impatient ones push past.
On the flip side of that coin, why shouldn't those who are moving more slowly show some slight consideration for other rail users and awareness of their surroundings, and give those who are moving faster - potentially to make an onward connection or an urgent appointment, etc. - the opportunity to pass?
Changing the subject, a couple just got on the Merseyrail train I'm on, with a toddler of about two, and plonked him standing on a seat to look out the window. Small children are more likely than adults to have goodness knows what on their shoes as they don't look where they are going.
The guard came through and took no notice whatsoever .
Ah, the good old days when every holiday resort had a launderette!
Changing the subject, a couple just got on the Merseyrail train I'm on, with a toddler of about two, and plonked him standing on a seat to look out the window. Small children are more likely than adults to have goodness knows what on their shoes as they don't look where they are going.
The guard came through and took no notice whatsoever .