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Discussion in 'Allocations, Diagrams & Timetables' started by cactustwirly, 15 May 2018.
Points Failure / Trespassers / ATP fault.
Seriously that's a lot. I hope that doesn't happen next week, but that's sods law and life!
06:47 Penzance to London Paddington due 12:21
06:47 Penzance to London Paddington due 12:21 will no longer call at Tiverton Parkway, Taunton and Westbury.
It has been previously delayed and is now 51 minutes late from Totnes.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:21/03/2019 10:25
Due Station Status
06:47 Penzance 06:47
06:57 St Erth 06:57
07:08 Camborne 07:08
07:15 Redruth 07:34
07:28 Truro 07:47
07:45 St Austell 08:04
07:53 Par 08:12
08:00 Lostwithiel 08:19
08:07 Bodmin Parkway 08:26
08:20 Liskeard 08:39
08:31 St Germans 08:50
08:39 Saltash 08:58
08:51 Plymouth 09:10
09:06 Ivybridge 09:35
09:21 Totnes 10:12
09:34 Newton Abbot 10:25
09:55 Exeter St Davids 10:46
10:10 Tiverton Parkway Not Stopping
10:28 Taunton Not Stopping
11:05 Westbury Not Stopping
11:52 Reading 12:43
12:21 London Paddington 13:12
Any word from GWR or @Clarence Yard on when the last train will be, as it has changed and Rail isn't always the best source!
Talking of 43088 it was paired with 43161 today on the 14:45 Paddington to Swansea, a rare treat.
According to Twitter, the last services will be on 18th May. Time I don’t know
Isn’t that what posts on the previous page of this thread were about, including the time?
I’m so sorry. I didn’t see that I just answered the question. I’d delete it if I could.
Don't think these have been posted yet, so will share them. These are (as of today) the current GWR 2+4 short set diagrams, with both sliding door and slam door sets in service.
Sliding door sets
2E12 0600 Penzance - Exeter St Davids
2C45 0926 Exeter St Davids - Penzance
2A85 1257 Penzance - Newton Abbot
2P49 1555 Newton Abbot - Plymouth
2C51 1755 Plymouth - Penzance
2P96 2018 Penzance - Plymouth
2C54 2242 Plymouth - Penzance (FX)
2D01 0600 Bristol Temple Meads - Bristol Parkway
2C43 0624 Bristol Parkway - Penzance
2A86 1141 Penzance - Newton Abbot
2P90 1450 Newton Abbot - Plymouth
2C48 1556 Plymouth - Penzance
2P95 1914 Penzance - Plymouth
5P95 21+41 Plymouth - St Phillips Marsh TMD (FSSuX)
Slam door sets
5U08 07+26 St Phillips Marsh TMD - Weston-super-Mare (ECS)
2U08 0841 Weston-super-Mare - Cardiff Central
2C73 1100 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2U18 1308 Taunton - Cardiff Central
2C83 1600 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2U28 1808 Taunton - Cardiff Central
2C34 2100 Cardiff Central - Bristol Temple Meads
2Y04 0648 Bristol Temple Meads - Weston-super-Mare
2U06 0736 Weston-super-Mare - Cardiff Central
2C71 1000 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2U16 1204 Taunton - Cardiff Central
2C81 1500 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2U26 1706 Taunton - Cardiff Central
2C91 2000 Cardiff Central - Taunton
5C91 22+21 Taunton - Laira TMD (ECS)
5D02 04+30 Laira TMD - Exeter St Davids
2D02 0600 Exeter St Davids - Bristol Parkway
2C65 0812 Bristol Parkway - Taunton
2W08 0937 Taunton - Weston-super-Mare
5U14 10+10 Weston-super-Mare - Taunton (ECS)
2U14 1104 Taunton - Cardiff Central
2C79 1400 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2U24 1608 Taunton - Cardiff Central
2C89 1900 Cardiff Central - Taunton
5C89 21+04 Taunton - St Phillips Marsh TMD (ECS)
Just a couple:-
1554 PLY to PNZ and 1914 PNZ to PLY are IET
This cannot be the "true" ones because this week there is late night Engineering Work between Bristol/Weston/Taunton affecting services. All the ECS are being operated as STP it would appear
I/m wondering if this thread is more in connection with the wind down of HST worked services and should be here:-
I guess this is why these services are still IET then. The set instead works 5Z74 1604 Plymouth - St Phillips Marsh (also an STP move) which I guess is due to the engineering works as you mentioned. Edited in the diagrams post.
There is a modified path for the return ECS off 2P95 to St Philips Marsh via Westbury that takes account of the engineering work, but obviously this will now not happen if 2P95 is an IET and the HST departed for Bristol 6 hours earlier.
Please does anyone know which (if any) departures from London Paddington to Newton Abbot are booked for HST this Saturday, 30th March?
Does anyone know how many diagrams will there be left by may 6th gwr hsts
Has there been any confirmation yet of Saturday and Sunday HST diagrams with effect from tomorrow (30 Mar)?
43160 is leading the way on 1L48, the 09:29 from Swansea to Paddington. Didn't have a chance to get to the other end of the platform before getting on it at Bristol Parkway to see what the rear car is though.
43159 at the rear.
Bloody hell that's the second time this year they have been paired together. I last had them in January.
Yes - although with the current power car requirement these days and the amount of power cars off-lease it does of course make it a much likelier possibility than it every used to be.
Thanks, I was only going as far as Swindon today so I didn't have to wait long to see it. Fingers crossed that diagram is back to a HST one for the time being.
OK - just checking:
Are the 1W39 1331 Paddington - Worcester Foregate Street & 1P69 Worcester Foregate Street - Paddington still booked as HSTs? Or do we not know yet?
Thanks in advance. If these services are HSTs, I'm sure that they'll be rammed full of people trying to get a last ride on a Cotswold Line HST!
Also, my Rail Guide 2018 (the most up-to-date one which I have) says that some HSTs are staying with GWR. Is this still true? I've heard about the sliding-door coaching stock being used with Class 43s. Does this mean that GWR, even though they are getting new IETs, are keeping HSTs for a while?
Don't count on it unfortunately. That train is part of an 'extra' diagram that is Bristol SPM - Bristol SPM that theoretically should have gone over to IET, but hasn't due to IET availability. Unsure how long it will last, although the 'extra' diagram in the week that involves the 1445 PAD - SWA is booked HST next week.
There’s a whole thread dedicated to the shortened and modified HSTs being kept, basically to overcome a shortage of suitable DMUs for routes in the west:
Before 2015 there was a possibility of keeping a small fleet of ‘normal’ HSTs for Devon and Cornwall services to/from Paddington, but that has long been superseded by additional IETs.
Looks like is an HST again tomorrow - whether this will be the last one on the Cotswold line is anyone's guess though! (I thought it was a couple of weeks back and it turned out it wasn't)
OK. Thanks very much. I remember people saying on here when the previous one ran that another one tomorrow would be a HST.
I think that it's better to assume that this one is the last one rather than assume that there'll be another one; that's the attitude I think everyone had before the IETs were introduced - "there'll always be a̶n̶ ̶E̶n̶g̶l̶a̶n̶d̶ another one!" and it's best to assume that this one is the last one.
It was me who was on the last diagrammed HST on the Cotswold Line to Hereford on 15th Feb and it was the train manager and trolley lady who said this is the last normal run.
It was meant to be March 8th but the diversions in Devon meant it ended sooner suprising everybody.
However a couple of weeks ago there was a Sunday run,only as far as Foregate Street not Hereford and the driver who brought her from Padd told me there was going to be another run on the 31st (as in tomorrow).
He also said they had been told some sets (he actually said 6) were being held in reserve for big events like Glastonbury.
Obviously all this can change but in fairness so far what the GWR girls told me on the 15th and what this driver said have both been accurate so far.
I'm hoping to get there for part of the trip tomorrow so will try asking the driver again what they have been told about anything in the future.
This is not true as per post from @Clarence Yard upthread:
OK. Thanks for the information.
Still booked as part of an HST diagram.
Currently showing as having set OC55 allocated with 43185 & 43162.
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